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    Kayslay is offline New Member
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    Please help me draft 2nd cycle.

    Age: 23
    Lifting History: 6 years, started out around 180 w21% bf
    Height: 6’1
    Weight: low 260’s
    Estimated BF% 19-20%
    Diet: Currently bulking .
    Goals: To loose fat while keeping muscle and gain LBM
    Cycle Experience: Currently on 7th week of first cycle (test/dbol , 12wk/5wk, 500mg/40mg) gained 27 lbs so far.

    Proposed cycle:
    For May 2004

    Cutting cycle
    Cycle A
    Prop 1-5 @ 50 mg ed
    Test eth or cyp (ICN or Testex Leo) 1-20 @500 mg
    T3 50mcg/1tab 1-6 112223333444444444443333333222222222111111
    Clen /eca alternating 7-16
    Winny tabs 50 mg ed 14-20

    Clomid wk 22 or 23 for 3 weeks
    Nolvadex throughout 10 mg ed

    Cycle B
    Omnadren @ 750mg 1-20 (mon, wed, fri shots)
    T3 50mcg/1tab 1-6 112223333444444444443333333222222222111111
    Clen/eca alternating 7-16
    Winny tabs 50 mg ed 14-20

    Clomid wk 23 for 3 weeks
    Nolvadex throughout

    For all 20 wks
    Keto (low carb)diet
    3-4 days a week cardio
    Training 3 days a week.

    Reasoning: I added prop wks 1-5 because Test eth doesn’t kick in for me till around wk 5 or 6. So if I am going to be doing T3, my main concern is not to loose muscle. I have tried to lean down before but found I also loose muscle (which I don’t want). I am sort of leaning towards Cycle B. Tell me what you guys think and any suggests to make the cycle run smother. Thank you in advance.

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    I like cycle A if you can replace the winny with fina. Their is a common misconception that winny is a fat burner...ITS NOT! Throw fina in there in its place and you will be very happy. Keep the diet clean and hit the cardio hard and you should see some great results!!!!

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    Thanks for the suggestion. I am going to definitely, take that into consideration. Any more suggestions would be greatly appreciated

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    You dont need anymore suggestions my word is gold! lol j/k bro

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    I agree cycle a looks best, i would use ICN, i love those babies!

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    Ok so add tren like this:
    tren 50 or 75 mg ed 14-20

    Omnas, are easier to get for me. Thats why i was sort of leaning towards Cycle B. . So i dont know really what to do. Im curently doing ICNs right now and I LOVE them. 27lbs-30lbs in 7 weeks how can i complain?. My next time around will just be a cutting cycle, I am just using the test to retain muscle lost from deiting. Will it make that much of a difference between A and B?

    Tell me what you think.
    Last edited by Kayslay; 12-04-2003 at 04:52 PM.

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    Revised cycle, BTW thanks for your help skii96
    Week 1-8 Clen /eca(2 weeks on 2 off)

    Week 1-13
    Omnadren250 750mg/week

    Week 9-16 (8 weeks)
    T3 50mcg/1 tab 11222333334444444443333332222211111111.5.5.5.5.5.5 .5.5

    Week 14-20
    Tren 50mg ed
    prop 75mg ed


    Week 21 PCT
    clomid
    nolva
    eca

    Tell me what you guys think now.Thanks
    Last edited by Kayslay; 12-04-2003 at 09:11 PM.

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