wow, ok here it is the cycle.

[2timer]

I am thinking about;

week1-10 eq-400mg
500mgtest enantate week1-6
week6-12 test prop100eod
week 6-12 fina 100mgeod
week 6-10 t-3
week 6-12 clen and eca cycle
clomid and phentermine,

[BUYLONGTERM]

First off what are your stats and experience? A couple of things. I don't like this cycle.

First, you want to run the prop in the beginning to help jump start your cycle. Next, you will need to run the EQ longer. 3rd you will definitely need to run the Enan longer. It will take 4 weeks for it to kick in. slow down bro and do some research.

BLT

[ColdSore]

I am thinking about;

week1-10 eq-400mg
500mgtest enantate week1-6
week6-12 test prop100eod
week 6-12 fina 100mgeod
week 6-10 t-3
week 6-12 clen and eca cycle
clomid and phentermine,

is this your first cycle????
If you wanna run all of those componds do it like this...and i dont necesarily agree with buylongterm, because i would thro the prop in the end, but differently.

week 1-10 500mg test E
week 1-12 400mg EQ
week 10-15 100mg prop eod
week 8-15 100mg fina eod
Run the T3 if you feel you really need it, otherwise i would just use the clen during my pct.

IMO i woud also drop the Eq and run the cycle like this...
week 1-10 500mg test E
week 5-12 75mg Fina ED
week 5-12 100mg test prop eod

Then start your pct 2 days after your last shot of fina/prop..and save th clen for pct.

[2timer]

can you revised it a little bit please. I want gain mass but loose some fat at the end that is why I oreinted it like that. anyways can you revised a little. I would appreciated

[ColdSore]

can you revised it a little bit please. I want gain mass but loose some fat at the end that is why I oreinted it like that. anyways can you revised a little. I would appreciated

If thats your goal then either run the EQ longer, or drop it....I like fina so i would chose it over the eq...but fina or eq are both good for what you wanna do...either way i would run the test prop up untill pct...then use the clen in your pct, not during the cycle....JMO

[2timer]

thanks that looks good. what would I expect from that cycle?

[2timer]

I really want to loose the fat at the end should use phertermine?at the end of the cycle?

[TheSevnthWarrior]

I am thinking about;

week1-10 eq-400mg
500mgtest enantate week1-6
week6-12 test prop100eod
week 6-12 fina 100mgeod
week 6-10 t-3
week 6-12 clen and eca cycle
clomid and phentermine,

Well. I would do the Prop First or Last...Or better yet, a split, maybe 3 weeks for your Kick, and the last three to be ready for PCT (right away)
The next problem I see (and you'll get Some conflicting opinions on this) is I would run the Fina and EQ just a tad bit longer...both of those seem to work best on slightly longer runs, especially EQ....This may create a problem if you can't afford more Test.
How about:
Weeks 1-3 Prop 100mg ED
Weeks 4-9 Enan 250 ETD
Weeks 10-12 Prop 100
Weeks 1-10 EQ 400mg
Weeks 4-12 Tren 75mg ED

This puts larger doses before and Aft on test...but I don't know what you can afford. And I think you'll be better off w/ 75mg Tren ED for a little longer as opposed to 100 ED for the time you had.
I'd also do 500 IU HCG ED for 3 weeks, I'm starting mine one week BEFORE the end of my cycle.
Good Luck!

[2timer]

I think I will do your second cycle but I want to do t-3 in the cycle becuase I really want to cut up by the end should I?

[ColdSore]

I think I will do your second cycle but I want to do t-3 in the cycle becuase I really want to cut up by the end should I?

you could run it, but i dont think you will need it....it just depends on how you react to the excess eating...ive lost body fat on my d-bol/test/fina cycle so i wouldntuse it becaue it would be a waste of money imo...if your worried about getting fat then just keep it on hand, and if around week 5 or 6 you think you need it then throw it in....or just use it from the begining if you know youll get fat from all of the eating...

[TheSevnthWarrior]

I think I will do your second cycle but I want to do t-3 in the cycle becuase I really want to cut up by the end should I?

T3 is far more than just a cutter....It's an excellent Protein Sythesizer, but you MUST be up on your Protein...(and on cycle of course)

[TheSevnthWarrior]

Wow, there was no reply when I started typin'....slow.
Everybody has tweeked it a little differently according to their personal taste, but you see what we're tryin' to say right??

[Pheedno]

I am thinking about;

week1-10 eq-400mg
500mgtest enantate week1-6
week6-12 test prop100eod
week 6-12 fina 100mgeod
week 6-10 t-3
week 6-12 clen and eca cycle
clomid and phentermine,

Bulking and cutting depend on diet, the kind of test makes no difference
Toss the Enan all together and run prop
wk1-15 75mg Prop ED
wk1-12 200mg EQ E3D
wk5-12 75mg Tren ED
.25mg L-dex + 10mg Nolva
PCT 3 days post prop injection-Clomi/Nolva

If you don't want doses that high, then use 50mg ED for Prop and tren.

Run a 63 day cycle of T3 and have it tapered out by wk 12.
3 day ramp up 5%
27 day constant 45%
33 day ramp down 55%

[2timer]

I can't wait to try one of these cycles!!!!!!!! thanks for the replies!

[2timer]

which one is wiser? loose fat then get big or get big then loose fat. or the first is impossible?

[TheSevnthWarrior]

which one is wiser? loose fat then get big or get big then loose fat. or the first is impossible?

Oh they're both possible.....But why in the world would you cut, knowing you're about to do a Bulking cycle and put it back on????
I think it was MudMan that said there is NO WAY you can bulk up successfully and not put on some Fat...and he's absolutely right! That's just the way it is.

[2timer]

thats what I thought and that is why I decided to do the cycle like big then loose fat.