cycle help for nebies

[RBLane]

hey guys, im an experienced lifter but lack experience with goods.

before starting my first cycle i want a good game plan. I have plenty of Dbol , winny, proviron , and nolvadex .
How exactly do I cycle these? Dbol first and winny how much later.
then, when do i start the privoron and nolvadex.
Please help, Thanks

Theres plenty of cycle info out there; in fact too much. What is your opinion with these two products?

[motoxxxguy]

First thing first, I wouldn't recommend doing any cycle without test in it.

As for what you have now, I don't think you could make a good cycle out of it. You could do something with it, but it would be disappointing to say the least. You at least need some test as a base for whatever you do.

Give us some more stats like age, weight, lifting exp, deit, etc. Goals also help in seeing where you are at and what would like to go with a cycle.

-moto

[RBLane]

Im 21 yrs old, 190 lbs with 5-6% body fat. My diet is pretty good, no fast food, lots of protein and complex carbs. Im looking to gain 15 lbs of good muscle.
What else besides Dbol would you recommend, Sus?
(this is only my first cycle)

[motoxxxguy]

Sust would work, but I'm not a fan of it. I prefer single ester tests. Something like this would be a great first cycle...

1-4 30-35mg d-bol ed
1-10 500mg test enanthate ew
13-15 clomid PCT

Keep the nolva on hand in case any gyno symptoms occur. I would suggest not running the nolva at this time to see how your body will react to this cycle. Some people have no need to run an anti-e throughout their cycle. The only way to know for sure is to try it. I would also save the winny for a future cycle.

-moto

[TRE]

I wouldnt even take that much if your goal is a solid 15 pounds. The cycle no doubt will work but your weight and having no cycle experience you'll put on way more then 15 pounds and be bloated as all hell. If you decide to run that cycle I would add 25mg of proviron and 10 mg of nolv ed and carry the nolv ointo post cycle. However I would run something like below for a solid 15-20 pounds.

Ten Weeks
1-10 Test (cyp, ent, sust) 250 (if using sust e3d injections of .5cc)
1-10 Deca 200 or eq 200.
Nolv 20 mg ed till week 13
or
proviron 50mg ed weeks 1-10

500mg with dbol is to much for a beginner.