is this too exessive for my first cycle/ im keeping the tren very light for beginer r

**georgie24** · 01-10-2002, 03:28 PM

test eth
1-10 200 mg week( maybe bump to 400 a week middle cyc)
tren
1-10 50 mg eod
armidex
.25 ed throughout whole cyc
clomid post cycle

goal to gain 15-20 pounds fat free mass
training
mon-wed thurs wieghts very very hard
non-weight days 20-25 min hiit cardio first thing morning

supplements
ala 800-1200 mg ed
milk thisle 1000 mg+ ed
2+gallons water ed
nyc stack/ xenadrine eod
weighttraining days creatine express (scifit)
l- glutamine everyday 2 times a day +extra for post cardio
got a bottle of flax oil (yak)
5-htp (in case i get irratable)

food intake
just a notch above maintanance (im an easy gainer)
300 g protien
150-250 carbos ( including post workout replenishment) have an apointment monday with endocrinologist to check blood/ liver values/ test levels/ ect if everything is good then i will inject away..
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**BIG_GUNS_21** · 01-10-2002, 07:58 PM

Too excessive??? Thats not enough gear even for a newbie. you need to rethink this cycle if you want gains. Its good to see you doing all the safety checks tho. Thats a good sign you did some research. Personally I would up the test to 400mg from the get go (200mg is not enough at all IMO and if you are useing a test like T200 you will be getting more like 150-170mg/cc, its a bit underdosed) and up the tren to 75mg eod at least. ed would even be better IMO. Tren is not as bad as some make it out to be. It is VERY VERY strong but its not THAT toxic. The main thing to watchout for with tren is the mood swings IMO.

Rest looks like you have done some home work...

**georgie24** · 01-10-2002, 10:20 PM

ok the tren is gonna change to 75 mg eod after first week if everyrthing goes good

**viperlingerfelt** · 01-11-2002, 12:59 AM

the test needs to be near 500mg / wk..... and the tren needs to be between 350 to 525 mg per week total (you can do everyday or every other day injects)....

**georgie24** · 01-11-2002, 04:15 PM

ok how does this look

test
400 week
tren
75 mg eod
armidex
.25 ed (id rather be broke and waterless than bloated with lute)
winny for the last six weeks followed by clomid

**viperlingerfelt** · 01-11-2002, 10:27 PM

geo...
that will give you a total of 262mg of tren per week (to low)

75mg x 7 injects over 14 days divided by 2 = 262 mg

100mg x 7inj over 14 days divided by 2 = **350mg**

go with 100mg every other day to get a workable dose...

**little-man-zane** · 01-12-2002, 01:22 AM

like viper said...it's all good

**RUSSIANBEAR** · 01-12-2002, 02:30 AM

If you run that cycle that you posted you might as well toss the arimidex you wont need it bro.
Since you are a beginner stay away from Tren its for more experienced users. Try a test/EQ stack youll love it.

400-600mg test/week 8 weeks
600mg EQ/10 weeks

Clomid two weeks after your last shot of EQ. 50/100/50