Final Cycle check it out

**HollywoodM3** · 01-07-2004, 09:49 AM

Hey everyone
Check this cycle out, let me know what you think. the idea is to hit the receptors hard while they are fresh and then move to a less androgenic product.

wk 1-4 anadrol 50mg
wk 1 Test 750mg
wk 2-5 Test 500mg
wk 1-2 deca 100mg
wk 3 deca 300mg
wk 4-5 deca 400mg
wk 6 deca 300mg
wk 7 deca 200mg
wk 8 deca 100mg
wk 5-8 d-bol 50mg ed
wk 5 primobolan 100mg
wk 6 primob 200mg
wk 7-8 primob 300mg

novle 20mg ed
clomid+hcg clen to finish

im 6ft 235 first time with anadrol, let me kno what you think
Thanks

**scottninpo** · 01-07-2004, 09:53 AM

wow, that's complicated, first, pyramidding does nothing, second, front loading is overrated, and third, primo is a waste of money, not trying to be a dick, but that's just my opinion

**scottninpo** · 01-07-2004, 09:54 AM

and running hcg and clomid together will hurt your recovery

**silenoz** · 01-07-2004, 09:54 AM

Why are you stopping test @ wk 5? Are you using prop?

**HollywoodM3** · 01-07-2004, 10:05 AM

the reason I am stoping test after wk 4 is b/c the receptors have been saturated and im moving to a less androgenic substance, the test will stay in the system, just a thought, let me kno,
anything better.
I would like to use anadrol any good cycles with it??
thanks bro

**HollywoodM3** · 01-07-2004, 10:08 AM

and just to add, when i said hcg +clomid
i am talking about 2 wk HCG then 2-3 wk clomid, sorry for the confusion

**DocHoliday** · 01-07-2004, 10:12 AM

Much too unstable if you ask me. Keep things constant and simple.

Stick with one test, at a steady dosage for the duration. Add one other compound at most for your first cycle. Like Deca since you have it listed. Run the test at a higher dosage than the deca and run a tad longer than the deca.

JMO.

Doc

**HollywoodM3** · 01-07-2004, 10:34 AM

doc
this wouldnt be my first cycle. but if you kno of any other tried and true cycle with anadrol fill me in...
thanks

**DocHoliday** · 01-07-2004, 10:45 AM

You’re set on using anadrol ?

Well, lets look at this.

The reason you want anadrol is for a quick boost in strength and weight I’m sure. So jump-starting the cycle with it is fine. Consider using Dbol instead and weigh them out.

Now pick a test. I would recommend Enanthate or Cypionate since their single acting esters are likely to be less liable for side effects.

If you want, stick with the Deca , but drop the primo. You’re running a bulking cycle here, plus primo is expensive and from what I understand hard to come by legit stuff.

So then your cycle could look something like this:

Wk 1-10 Test E/orCyp 400mg-500mg each week.
Wk 1-9 Deca 300mg each week.

Wk 1-15 Nolvadex (if Test E)
Wk 12-15 Clomid
Or
Wk 1-16 Nolvadex (if Test Cyp)
Wk 13-16 Clomid

Savvy?

Doc

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 01-08-2004, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by DocHoliday

You’re set on using anadrol ?

Well, lets look at this.

The reason you want anadrol is for a quick boost in strength and weight I’m sure. So jump-starting the cycle with it is fine. Consider using Dbol instead and weigh them out.

Now pick a test. I would recommend Enanthate or Cypionate since their single acting esters are likely to be less liable for side effects.

If you want, stick with the Deca , but drop the primo. You’re running a bulking cycle here, plus primo is expensive and from what I understand hard to come by legit stuff.

So then your cycle could look something like this:

Wk 1-10 Test E/orCyp 400mg-500mg each week.
Wk 1-9 Deca 300mg each week.

Wk 1-15 Nolvadex (if Test E)
Wk 12-15 Clomid
Or
Wk 1-16 Nolvadex (if Test Cyp)
Wk 13-16 Clomid

Savvy?

Doc

Wow, I didn't know WHERE to start with that mess...So I'll just say take Doc's advice

I have ran these "Synergy" type fad cycles...they're over rated, but if I were ever going to (which I'm not) I'd still run test regardless.
That's a pretty clean simple cycle Doc's got layed out for you there Bro, and you'll be happy with the results.
(I am a bit lost on the difference of PCT timing though, since Enanthate has a slightly longer half life

What's the thought on that Doc?)

**DocHoliday** · 01-08-2004, 02:22 AM

I could be wrong, but I thought cyp’s timing for PCT ran a week longer than Enanthate . Thus it’s half life I assumed being longer than Enanthate’s.

I can ALWAYS be wrong.

Doc

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 01-08-2004, 02:30 AM

Yeah Doc...I think Enanthate is the Marathon Winner by a matter of hours. Actually, I have Chart that says it's longer by like a day or two, but I think it was Pheedno that was saying it's only like 4 hours or something like that....I THINK! ; ) (I could be wrong too....I got priors!)

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 01-08-2004, 02:31 AM

LOL...BTW, that Chris Rock line freakin' Kills me!

**DocHoliday** · 01-08-2004, 02:50 AM

Thanks (about the chris rock line)

Wow, I feel stupid, I thought Cyp was longer.

Then again, I do remember Pheedno saying something about a carbon atom and something being less in Cyp.

He’s smart but way over my head. Ethereal in his wisdom.

Doc

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 01-08-2004, 03:00 AM

Yeah, that was the thread I was thinking of where he said that. Which was kind of a relief to me cuz I could never really tell much differencce between Enth and Cyp...but after he said that I felt better, like "oh, well no wonder" cuz I grew and held water etc etc about the same on both....and yeah, he is freakin smart, if I was that smart I wouldn't be able to get my head in the Truck to go to work! I have a fairly hard time as it is...I consistently overate myself...some old habit are hard to break! ; )

***Pheedno*** · 01-10-2004, 01:19 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys, it means a lot

On the Enan/Cyp active life. Enan is 10.5-12, Cyp is 13-15.

Half life is within a few hours of each other, between 3-4 days

**DocHoliday** · 01-10-2004, 01:23 PM

Ahhh so Cyp is a bit longer lasting. I thought it was.

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 01-10-2004, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by DocHoliday

Ahhh so Cyp is a bit longer lasting. I thought it was.

OK, I'm really confused now, I could of swore it was the other way around, in fact I always did, I just thought they we're farther apart until Pheedno said (well... at least I thought he said ..LOL) that Enth was a few hours longer than Cyp???
Hmmm, man, I would've bet $$ on it....glad I didn't.

Anybody have a GOOD chart, I have several, and they're ALL wrong.

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 01-10-2004, 01:47 PM

BTW Doc, your workout regime and Make up is working wonders Bro!!!
You B Fine!
(I used to think you looked kina like Kermit)

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 01-10-2004, 01:50 PM

Hmmm, I was just looking at a Chart I'd recopied and saved a couple years ago when I was considering "starting up again"..you'll never guess, I've got Cyp listed Longer...I'm a Dork!
My only excuse is that I was out of the game for 3 years...but man these are basics...I'll shut up.

**DocHoliday** · 01-10-2004, 02:53 PM

Haha,

But I don’t think it matters really which is longer. The administration time for PCT is the same for both, and that seems to matter most.

Thanks, I had the boobs done a few weeks ago.

Black and White is more flattering.

Doc