How's this

[jcshack]

Sorry for adding another question that I'm sure has been asked 1,454,757,354 times.

I want to do this

250mg of Deca ew.
200mg of eq ew.
200mg cyp ew.
PCT

or should I do

500mg of deca ew
200mg of cyp ew.
PCT

I read the whole eq and deca thread and came out more confused then ever

I'm fairly lean now and just want to gain about 20lbs of muscle and keep most of it. Not planning on turning into some huge guy, just want some muscle mass back and quick.

Also what testosterone would you say is the best for what I want, I can't get sus so it's either syp, enan, prop (i know this one is for cutting).

[TheMudMan]

Need stats....... age, weight, height, training exp., cycle exp............

[MachZ]

Neither of them look good.
Like Mudman said, post your info so we have a better idea.

[jcshack]

Mudman is good, he's always givin a helping hand

I'm 26, 185lbs, 5'11"

Training for 6 years I've done 3 cycles been off for a year and a half (dad died early last year and just killed all my motivation for a few months and was out of the gym) and have been steady in the gym for 8/9 months.

My cycles have been simple.

First one was Sus 250 and deca 200 for 10 weeks
Second was the same
Third was deca 200 and enanthate 250 with the deca pyramidding.

I saw decent gains with them all (10-20 lbs), I just like a little more mass, with as less waterweight as possible. I'd take about 6 months to a year between cycles.

[TheMudMan]

You say you want leaner gains the I would go with Prop and EQ........ with Prop you will need to do ED injections if that's too much then use Cyp or Enan. Deca is beter suited for bulkers JMO

1 - 15 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 12 EQ 400mg
1 - 15 L-dex .25 ED
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

or

1 - 13 Enan 250mg E3D
1 - 12 EQ 400mg
1 - 15 L-dex .25 ED
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection of Enan

PCT
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva

[jcshack]

what is l-dex?

[TheMudMan]

Ameridex, liquidex are other names for it..... it's use to stop test from converting into estrogen

[RON]

Sorry for adding another question that I'm sure has been asked 1,454,757,354 times.

I want to do this

250mg of Deca ew.
200mg of eq ew.
200mg cyp ew.
PCT

or should I do

500mg of deca ew
200mg of cyp ew.
PCT

Make the test 500-600 mg and either would work IMO. I do like Muds cycles better cause I personally get good results from prop, eq and enanthate. Cyp and deca is just not my things.

[jcshack]

1 - 13 Enan 250mg E3D
1 - 12 EQ 400mg
1 - 15 L-dex .25 ED
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection of Enan

any problems with making it (above) a 10 week cycle?

[TheMudMan]

The EQ has to be ran at least 12 weeks to see any results from it. You might be able to get away with 10 but you will be much happier if you run the EQ to week 12.

[jcshack]

Do you think I can do 300mg a week for 13 weeks. My issue is cost. I can purchase bottles that contain 200mg per ml and they are 10cc/ml. So I can either spread out the 4000mg to 13 weeks at 300mg or buy another one and do eq at 400mg for 15 weeks. Then I could only buy one 250mg of enathate for 10 weeks, I think I'm good with less test though just because of hair loss.

Let me know what you think.

[BUYLONGTERM]

I've done 300mg of EQ with good results.