Rate the AS brands.

[steppenwolf]

Testoviron test enanthate by Shering costs twice as much as IP test enanthate. Is it twice as good??

Organon test enanthate costs 1/3 more than Shering. Is it 1/3 more effective??

What gives the most bang for the $ ?

How much IP test enanthate should I take to equal 500 mg of Testoviron by Shering??

Thanks.

[BDTR]

my response in caps

Testoviron test enanthate by Shering costs twice as much as IP test enanthate. Is it twice as good??

YES IT IS

Organon test enanthate costs 1/3 more than Shering. Is it 1/3 more effective??

NO ITS NOT

What gives the most bang for the $ ?

GO WITH A GOOD UG LAB LIKE SL

How much IP test enanthate should I take to equal 500 mg of Testoviron by Shering??

YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO INJECT IP GEAR

Thanks.

[Jackman]

go with british dragon or ultra labs..... both great products good prices

[BLACKZILLA]

is the general consensus that IP is no good?

[motoxxxguy]

I've heard very few good things about IP's oils.

-moto

[ItalianMuscle]

I will go with either ug or sl labs.. Both are good..

[steppenwolf]

my response in caps

I've heard of Syd group, Quality vet, Denkall, Tornal, Ttokkyo, Brovel and Ausvet products.
But only British Dragon and British Dispensory orals.

Since Ip is only 1/2 as powerful as Shering, does that mean I should take 1000 mg of Ip test enanthate to equal 500 mg of Testoviron ??
I already bought 9 bottles of IP AS. 4 bottles of enanthate. 3 sust. 3 tren . 1 susp / prop. 1 masteron .

What do you think of IP dbol , drol and masteron tabs??

What does SL stand for??

Thanks for the replies.

[50%Natural]

No, Ip is junk, find something else. If you don't know what sl, don't ask. It is a great underground lab. I would rate syd and qv as the best vet brands imo. Just from my experience. I like the denkall var too.

[slobberknocker]

Schering is awesome. IP sucks.

[steppenwolf]

No, Ip is junk, find something else. If you don't know what sl, don't ask. It is a great underground lab. I would rate syd and qv as the best vet brands imo. Just from my experience. I like the denkall var too.

Sydgroup is always sold out. On another board, they say QV and Sydgroup are high in BA and painful.

I found what SL is.

Thanks for the replies.

[BDTR]

You'll never feel pain like IP gear, feels like you're shooting motor oil.

[50%Natural]

Sydgroup is always sold out. On another board, they say QV and Sydgroup are high in BA and painful.

I found what SL is.

Thanks for the replies.

yeah the ba is kinda high in the test but you work through it.

[USfighterFC]

I took IP prop and found it to be complete garbage. I gained almost nothing. It was extremely painful as well, it was like injecting napalm into my body. DONT GET IP!!!!!!

[steppenwolf]

You'll never feel pain like IP gear, feels like you're shooting motor oil.

I even get pain from Upjohn test. Low heat gets rid of the pain

without damaging the gear. To get rid of pain, I take the rubber top off. I

microwave it for 20 seconds. It is hot to hold. But not so hot that I can not

hold it. If it is not this hot, I microwave it for another 10 seconds, until it is

hot. If I still get some pain, I wait till it cools off and do it again. I have !00 mg

of IP susp / prop and 500 mg of ** test enan in my glute right now. I have just

a little pain, so I am going to do it again.

Thanks for the replies.

[BDTR]

Never microwave gear, EVER.

[50%Natural]

a bit odd, try boiling putting bottle in hot water and heating that way

[steppenwolf]

Never microwave gear, EVER.

Why not. It doesn't get that hot. It is only for 19 seconds. On bolex even the mods do it.

[cbpumped]

I have used several brands. Schering enanthate was the best I ever had I blew up on that. Organon sus and decca are pretty good. Qv is pretty good but can be painful. Personally qv is my favorite vet company. Denkall, Tornal, Ttokkyo, Brovel are ok it depends on what your taking. Denkall and ttokkyo were better than brovel in my experiences. The human grade stuff seams to all work good for me. Now as for pain using heat works well but Ibuprofren works miracles for me. If my ass is starting to hurt or the fever is coming on I take 6-800mg of ibuprofren. I have found it stops the pain and will control the test fever if you catch it early enough. You may have to take 6-800mg twice per day for 3-5 day's depending on how bad the injection site is but it works. I never get real bad cases of the test flu anymore. I just take the ibu in advance and never feel under the weather.

[motoxxxguy]

Quality made gear should not hurt. Other than the fact that you just jabbed a needle into your muscle and filled it with oil, the gear itself should not rbing on additional pain. People regularly settle for badly made gear, thinking that it is ok for it to hurt. Try some good gear, and you will want nothing to do with the other crap out there. JMO

-moto

[Dude-Man]

A very wise and powerful vet once told me IP's slogan...

"A free infection comes with every injection!"

[BUYLONGTERM]

Heres my take. I've used:

1. Primoteston by schering - Bar far the best stuff I've used!!!
2. QV CYP - Decent
3. Upjohn - Very good!
4. Sydgroup - Decent
5. Testoviron - Same as Primoteston, different country - Good stuff
6. Delatestryl - Mead Johnson. U.S. - I use for HRT thearpy. Good stuff as well.

And a few more, I can't think of off the top of my head.

Again, the best stuff I've run is BY far by Schering. I started running it at only 250mg and LOVED it.

I'm running Sydgroup now. I have NO pain whatsoever.

SL=Shanghai Labs - Great price, heard it's good stuff

[the original jason]

gotta love british dragon, all the quality of the top labs, all the new products coming out, all lab test matching up or beating what they should be, availability, and price. Got the whole pacakage in one!! arimidex coming soon!

peace