Cycle Critique

**Oceans7** · 01-23-2004, 09:09 PM

I'm a 40 somethin year old advanced gym rat on my first cycle of gear ... here is my plan. Any critiques appreciated...

Deca Sust-250 Proviron Clomid
mg/wk mg/wk mg/day mg/day
Week 1 200
Week 2 300
Week 3 400
Week 4 400 250 50
Week 5 400 250 50
Week 6 400 500 50
Week 7 300 500 50
Week 8 300 250 50
Week 9 200 250 50
Week 10 200 50
Week 11 100 50
Week 12
Week 13 100
Week 14 75
Week 15 50

**popa** · 01-23-2004, 09:16 PM

no need to stagger it, just do 500mgs/week and 300mgs deca /week

**asiancuts** · 01-23-2004, 09:21 PM

yes, pyramiding doses is outdated. you want to run the same dose throughout to keep test levels constant. some might say to run a test only cycle for your first, but many have used test/deca for a first and had great results. 15 weeks is a long time to run a first cycle too.

**Mr. Death** · 01-23-2004, 11:39 PM

Yeah, keep your doses constant throughout the cycle. Also, you will want to begin using the sust and deca at the same time, and run the sust one week past the deca. You also need to do some research on pct. You don't want to use clomid in the middle of the cycle, and you have nothing listed for pct.

**Oceans7** · 01-24-2004, 10:27 PM

Cool ... I'll ditch the pyramid cycle and just do a straight 500sust/300deca for 10wks. As far as the PCT goes, I have read some info on this and it seems many are in disagreement. I heard some pretty logical sounding arguements that clomid alone was sufficient. Do you disagree?

**Mr. Death** · 01-25-2004, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Oceans7

Cool ... I'll ditch the pyramid cycle and just do a straight 500sust/300deca for 10wks. As far as the PCT goes, I have read some info on this and it seems many are in disagreement. I heard some pretty logical sounding arguements that clomid alone was sufficient. Do you disagree?

Clomid alone works well for me.

**Ambulance** · 01-25-2004, 12:55 AM

Run the clomid 2 weeks after your last test injection using the 300/100/500 mg chart. If you need it in more detail PM me.

500mg a week test and 300mg deca should do the trick..split into 2 shots (1 shot every 3 days)

Make sure to have Nolvadex on hand to prevent gyno (aka b*tch tits) during your cycle. You should run this at 10mg a day.

You can find clomid and nolva both on chemical research web sites, go to google.com and just search for it under research liquid chemicals of liquid clomid...you get the idea

Good luck =)

Ps. seems test/deca is the most popular stack of the night