First cycle???

[mikeyG33]

Hey, im wondering what i should take for my first cycle.

I'm 22, '5"9, 165lbs

I wanna gain mass but lean mass because i wanna be cut.

someone suggested Deca and sust. but im not sure.

If i could get some more suggestions that would be great. thanks

[HILLBILLY]

Nice to meet you bro, Don't take this the wrong way, But, From one newbie to another do some researching first!!!!! Lots of amazing info in here, You should set your cycle up to your needs not other peoples suggestions. get your cycle in order post it, than ask for suggestions you'll get alot more answers that way. Theirs alot of good people on this board willing to HELP you NOT do it for you. IMO

[mikeyG33]

i've done tons of research
i wanna bulk up but not get extra bodyfat or gyno
so i was thinkin 8 to 10 weeks of deca and test with nolva
or should i go the other way to get cut and take like winny, primobolan , and clen

[Ambulance]

Have you ever experimented with creatine, high protein, and a mass diet before? At 165 you probably have some easy growth left unless you are an ectomorph.

Try 10g of creatine, and 350-400g protein a day for a few months..or years.

If you are insisting on starting anabolics then you might as well be safe, so I would recomend running Testosterone Enanthate at 400mg a week for 10 weeks. Also run Nolvadex @10mg a day to prevent breast tissue growth (aka b*tch tits) while on your cycle. 2 weeks after your cycle you will need to run what is called Post Cycle Therapy ...which is what restores your natural test levels and gets your bals working naturally again. You will need 36 clomid pills and you can run a search on this board for "clomid therapy" to find out how to use them or PM me.

Hope you try and stay natural for awile, but if your not willing to then theres a good basic cycle for you that you can gain a good 15-25lbs on.

[scottninpo]

your first cycle should consist of one compound, a low to moderate dose of test, should look something like this:

400mg test weeks 1-10
.25mg ldex ED
10mg nolva ED

PCT starts two weeks after last shot of test:
day 1 clomid 300mg
day 2-11 clomid 100mg
day 12-21 clomid 50mg
day 1-21 nolva 20mg

[Hawgz]

Take his advice read, read, read, it will protect you from the flamethrower's LOL. im speaking from experience

[Hawgz]

That is my goal as well and this was cycle recommended to me.
wk 1-13 test e 500mg wk
wk 1-12 eq 4-600mg wk
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed
pct starts wk 15
But i had 2 so called cycles under my belt.

[scottninpo]

i like that for your second cycle, hawgz, too much for a first cycle, imo, you don't need that much aas to grow for your first, and remember, the more you use now, the more you'll need later

[jbol]

i like scottninpo's suggestion,im gonna take his advice,the only thing im gonna do different is add masteron in the final six weeks of my 10 week cycle and bump the nolva to 20mg ed during pct,some say its wrong to add a cutter but im gonna give it a try....scottninpo suggested this cycle to me earlier,and after lots and lots of reading and research.......i believe he is right......thanks scottninpo

[scottninpo]

no problem, keep us up to date on the masteron , if used correctly, it can be very effective

[jbol]

no problem, keep us up to date on the masteron, if used correctly, it can be very effective

dont worry, youll be one of the first to know.still gotta get all my gear together first...

[MrDezel]

moderation is key for your first cycle. Your receptors are going to respond the best during ur first cycle. Test is a great base so really try to include it at a moderate dose and you will def be happy.