Buff's finished cycle...

[Jack87]

This is it boys and girls...

Finally finished what I'm gonna run next...

If you got a few seconds to check it out...

Let me know what you all think...

I have it in Excel format and it makes more sense that way...

Had to much extra time on my hands today...

D-Bol Weeks 1-4 50mg ED
Test Prop Weeks 1-3 100mg EOD
Test Ent Weeks 1-3 600mg Weeks 4-12 900mg
Deca weeks 1-12 600mg
Tren Ent Weeks 7-12 500mg
Proviron Weeks 3-12 25-50mg (depending on estrogen sides)
Test Prop Weeks 13-15 100mg EOD
Clen Weeks 11-12, 15-16, and 19-20 120mcg ED (2 week on/off)
T3 starting Week 11 ramping up to 250mcg ED peak weeks
12-14 then slowly taper down over weeks 15-17
Clomid PCT Weeks 16-18
Tribestan PCT Week 18 2000mg ED, Week 19 1500mg ED, Week 20 1000mg ED

Goal is to go from 230lbs 20%BF current to 240lbs plus at 15% BF or less...

Then take a few months off and run a straight up cutting cycle so by end
of summer 2004 close to single digit BF% for first time in long time...

[Jack87]

BTW will have Bromo just incase... Deca/Tren could cause gyno, but
I'm usually good to go withn that combo... Only estrogen gyno seems
to bother me...

[Mallet]

Did you pull this cycle out of the begginer stack section???...JK... lol . t3 seems a little high!...but other than that it looks awesome, you've definately done your homework bro!
How long for the tren ena to start working...I see your running it for 6 weeks.

[Jack87]

I just posted this over on Freakz too...

Bro made a good point about the Tren Ent is gonna take
time to kick in like any other Enanthate ester so I may
extend it to 8-10 weeks for the Tren Ent...

If it acts like Test Ent for me it usually takes 2-3 weeks to fully kick in...

This is the baddest ass cycle I have run, the T3 is high, but there's
a good reason for that...

T3 is known to burn more BF% by those with higher BF levels...

My goal with this is to get to my all time highest Bodyweight and then
cut my BF% by 5% or better at the end of the cycle since it'll be almost
summer by then...

It's the 1mcg per Lb of bodyweight method that some bros rave about...

I'm really not to concerned with the sides, since mostly they will just be
alot of sweating and increased Body Temp,
so I know I will be very uncomfortable, but nothing I can't deal with...

Can't be any worse then DNP, cus that was option #2 to hit my target goal...

And if the Target isn't hit I got them caps waiting...

Did you pull this cycle out of the begginer stack section???...JK... lol . t3 seems a little high!...but other than that it looks awesome, you've definately done your homework bro!
How long for the tren ena to start working...I see your running it for 6 weeks.

[chuck89gt5.0]

You think sides will just be some sweating and high body temp? Dude thats ALOT of gear, you better be ready for other sides than just that buddy. I see lots of acne filled balding rage in your future =)

[Jack87]

Bro I have used high doses before...
Nothing different this time around...

I have a high tolerance for most things...

Not new at all to any of this, but thanks for
your concerns and feedback... Alot of gear
you are 100% correct about... It is...

You think sides will just be some sweating and high body temp? Dude thats ALOT of gear, you better be ready for other sides than just that buddy. I see lots of acne filled balding rage in your future =)

[LilVito469]

thats alot of juice for this newbie , but good luck

[Johnny Boy]

From what I know, your cycle looks complete and well thought out. Good luck bro. Keep us posted on your progress.

[LilVito469]

be shure to keep me informed on your progress to

[chuck89gt5.0]

How often do you plan do inject and how many cc's each day?

[Jack87]

Pretty much for the whole cycle I'm looking at EOD
injections with the exception of maybe weeks 4, 5, and 6
Gear being used will be dosed at 300mg/ml for the Test
and Deca and the Tren Ent 250mg/ml so 7 cc's per week
for most of the cycle, more the weeks I'm running the Prop

[Jack87]

Tribestan has gone up lately... about $32 per box
when buying 5 boxes or more... But IMO it is needed
after a heavy Deca/Tren cycle... Clomid is not enuf!!!
I have learned that from experience... Trust me...

[Jack87]

I will and keep in mind this is not my 2nd or 3rd cycle...
More like the 8th or 9th and once you have gone up to
higher doses you pretty much have to keep going there
to see the gains you are looking for... I would use much
less if I could, but this is where I'm at...

be shure to keep me informed on your progress to

[DF2003]

looks good buff! wish you the best of luck and hope you hit those goals!

[magnusson]

looks good bud, have fun

[dizzle]

looks just fine to me.

[ColdSore]

i like it...

are you gonna run any L-dex, or arimadex to keep the bloat off, or just proviron...

BTW...what is tribestan...sound kinda like it has tribulas in it...is it a legal hormone???? never heard of it

[Mallet]

I usually take t3 at 150mcg...but you've sparked my interest in this 1mcg per lb theory...I usually go by body temp, I keep track with a digital thermometer. Ya I was wondering if the tren was going to have enough time to kick in for ya. Keep me informed of your results as you go...I'm starting to cut in about 10 days or so. I almost went the dnp route myself!

All things considered bro...I think your going to reach your goal!

I just posted this over on Freakz too...

Bro made a good point about the Tren Ent is gonna take
time to kick in like any other Enanthate ester so I may
extend it to 8-10 weeks for the Tren Ent...

If it acts like Test Ent for me it usually takes 2-3 weeks to fully kick in...

This is the baddest ass cycle I have run, the T3 is high, but there's
a good reason for that...

T3 is known to burn more BF% by those with higher BF levels...

My goal with this is to get to my all time highest Bodyweight and then
cut my BF% by 5% or better at the end of the cycle since it'll be almost
summer by then...

It's the 1mcg per Lb of bodyweight method that some bros rave about...

I'm really not to concerned with the sides, since mostly they will just be
alot of sweating and increased Body Temp,
so I know I will be very uncomfortable, but nothing I can't deal with...

Can't be any worse then DNP, cus that was option #2 to hit my target goal...

And if the Target isn't hit I got them caps waiting...

[Mallet]

I will and keep in mind this is not my 2nd or 3rd cycle...
More like the 8th or 9th and once you have gone up to
higher doses you pretty much have to keep going there
to see the gains you are looking for... I would use much
less if I could, but this is where I'm at...

Well said bro...I just posted a thread on dosing...definately wish I could grow on 500/week of sus! would be alot cheaper that's for sure!

[w8tlifterty]

Good luck on reaching your goal bro, definately attainable with your knowledge and cycle experience. I love the cycle, looks great, been planning on something very similar for my next go around....

[Jack87]

No L-dex...

Just Proviron and Novaldex if needed...

Tribestan is a concentrated form of tribulas
made by Sopharma Bulgaria 250mg per tab...

Very good for PCT even though alot of bros
say otherwise... After a Deca or Tren cycle it
is a must for me to get the boys back in check...
Clomid alone just isn't enough, Tribestan is very good,
but must be taken at high doses to really work...

i like it...

are you gonna run any L-dex, or arimadex to keep the bloat off, or just proviron...

BTW...what is tribestan...sound kinda like it has tribulas in it...is it a legal hormone???? never heard of it

[ColdSore]

No L-dex...

Just Proviron and Novaldex if needed...

Tribestan is a concentrated form of tribulas
made by Sopharma Bulgaria 250mg per tab...

Very good for PCT even though alot of bros
say otherwise... After a Deca or tren cycle it
is a must for me to get the boys back in check...

thanks bro...how do you think tribestan compares to say...biotest's Tribex500???...im having some troubles right now with my boys and ive been reading into adding some tribulas into my pct

[Jack87]

I will be very honest with you... I have never tried Biotest's product..

But about 3 years ago for the first time ever after a cycle with about
500mg of deca a week for 12 weeks with 750mg of Test Ent I had a
problem when I came off where I could not get little Buff to want to
go to work

Me and my girl at the time always got busy almost everyday and she
was one of those girls that would always turn me on... and then about
6 weeks after being off and after my Clomid PCT nothing

It was the worse, cus it never happened before I guess and I had no
sex drive for the next 2-3 weeks... I had heard of Tribestan and how
it was used as a natural Viagra for years by relasing more LH so your
balls make alot more natual test production...

About 2 weeks into it I was back to normal and even more horny then
usual, so I know it worked and I have used it ever since...

You need high doses to really make it work like I outlined in my cycle...

8 tabs a day is 2000ms which is what I take for the 1st week and then
I drop it down to 6 tabs week 2 and so on until I'm back to normal...

thanks bro...how do you think tribestan compares to say...biotest's Tribex500???...im having some troubles right now with my boys and ive been reading into adding some tribulas into my pct

[ColdSore]

buff...do you mind pm'ing me the site you order from?

[Jack87]

Just do a search on Yahoo... There's a ton of sites
that sell it all for about the same price... Easy to find
any problems let me know...

[usualsuspect]

Looks like a fierce cycle Buff.

Just curious bro, what brands of gear will you be running? UG labs?

[Jack87]

Yep...

New UG Lab product...

Testing things out, I'll fill you bros
in later if you wanna know...

Will be starting in about 3 weeks...

Looks like a fierce cycle Buff.

Just curious bro, what brands of gear will you be running? UG labs?

[Jack87]

More info I found on Tribestan...

COMPOSITION:
Proprietary Tribulus terrestris extract, 250 mg in one filmtablet

ACTION:
Tribestan is non-hormonal drug of plant origin with a stimulating effect on sexual function. Its active components are steroid saponins of furostanol type, isolated from the plant Tribulus terestris L. It restores and improves the male libido sexualis, improves and prolongs erection. It has a stimulating effect on spermatogenesis by increasing the number of spermatozoa and by improving their motility. Elevates the testosterone level. It improves libido sexualis in females, has a slight stimulating effect on ovulation, a favourable effect on vasomotor symptoms in natural and postcastration climacterium, as well as on subjective complaints of insomnia, general anxiety, irritability and apathy.

INDICATIONS:
In males - impotentia coeundi in Klinefelter's syndrome, varicocele, cryptorchism, hypotrophy of testes, Noonan's syndrome, sterility due to idiopathic oligoasthenozoospermia, idiopathic azoopermia. In females - frigidity, endocrine ovarian sterility, climacteric and post-castration syndrome with marked vasomotor and neurasthenic manifestations.

CONTRAINDICATIONS:
Not reported so far.

SIDE EFFECTS:
Not observed so far in over 18 years of application.

DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION:
Males - both the dosage and duration of the treatment are determined by the character and severity of the disease. The dose is most often 1-2 tablets, 3 times daily, during meals. The duration of the treatment is as follows: impotentia coeundi - at least 40-50 days, sterility - 70-90 days.
Females - the treatment is strictly individual and depends on the severity of the disease. The dose is usually 1-2 tablets, 3 times daily, during meals. In cases of sterility, the drug is administered from day 1st to day 12th of the menstrual cycle. In post-castration and climacteric syndrome the treatment lasts 60-90 days. After attaining an improvement, the dose is reduced to 2 tablets daily for 50-60 days as a maintenance dose.

MEDICINAL FORM AND PACKAGE:
Packages with 60 filmtablets of 250 mg.

buff...do you mind pm'ing me the site you order from?

[GRIPS]

why did you start out with 600mg of enanthate test then 4m weeks later raise it to 900 mgs?

[Jack87]

Because weeks 1-3 I'm running Test Prop so my I can get a quick
start with the cycle... then I'm running just the Test Enanthate
until the end when I will run Test Prop again as the longer esters
drop and clear my body... No reason to run 900mg of Test Ent the
first 3 weeks... Will have plenty of Test doing it's job weeks 1-3...

why did you start out with 600mg of enanthate test then 4m weeks later raise it to 900 mgs?