Sus, Deca, Tren

[PiecinItUp]

Been a while since i've been posting...good to be back....
Looking to do a pretty medium cycle starting this spring...could use some opinions b4 I start....

Sus 500mg/wk wks 1-10
Deca 600mg/wk wks 1-10
Tren 75mg/ed wks 4-12
Arimidex .25/ed wks 1-10
HCG wks 4-6
PCT


Thanks Guys

[TheMudMan]

You need to up your SUS or lower your deca ...... You also don't want to run the tren to week 12..... You will want to end it a little early to allow it to clear and this will help in your recovery process when you start PCT.

This is how I would run it with what you have:
1 - 12 SUS 750mg
1 - 10 Deca 600mg
3 - 10 or 1 - 8 Tren 75mg ED
1 - 13 Arimidex .25 ed
1 - 13 Nolva 10 mg ED

Start PCT 3 weeks after last SUS injection

Have bromo on hand
Sus 500mg/wk wks 1-10
Deca 600mg/wk wks 1-10
Tren 75mg/ed wks 4-12
Arimidex .25/ed wks 1-10

[SLUMPBUSTR]

i agree with mudman....up the sust. you dont want any chances of getting deca dick.

[RON]

I'd switch the deca to eq. Also I always opt for Enanthate instead of sust. A much better choice till you get into the higher doses where you can spread the shots out better (or ad prop). In this case since you shooting tren ed anyway Prop would be the best choice IMO. Also hcg while it would help with being shut down on you cycle would not be needed in mine.

prop 100mg ed 1-14
Tren 75mg/ed wks 4-14
eq 600mg/wk wks 1-12
Arimidex .25/ed wks 1-14
nolva 20mg from beginning through PCT
PCT

[TheMudMan]

I'd switch the deca to eq. Also I always opt for Enanthate instead of sust. A much better choice till you get into the higher doses where you can spread the shots out better (or ad prop). In this case since you shooting tren ed anyway Prop would be the best choice IMO. Also hcg while it would help with being shut down on you cycle would not be needed in mine.

prop 100mg ed 1-14
Tren 75mg/ed wks 4-14
eq 600mg/wk wks 1-12
Arimidex .25/ed wks 1-14
nolva 20mg from beginning through PCT
PCT

This is a better way the only thing I would change is I would run the prop 2 weeks longer than the Tren.

[RON]

Yea your right Mud. I know people who have gotten sex drive problems from this. My bad I know better. I added 2 weeks on to the tren anyway so just stop it at week 12 with the eq

[PiecinItUp]

Why switch to EQ?

[RON]

So your not shut down so much like you would be with deca and tren . I don't mix the two

[PiecinItUp]

What if I were to say that Deca 300 is readily available unlike EQ

[RON]

I'll leave that to someone who has mixed them but they both shut me down hard and I don't mix em. Just from personal experiance

[PiecinItUp]

what do you mean by shut you down, sexually?

[TheMudMan]

what do you mean by shut you down, sexually?

No sex drive, limp dick

Ron is correct using both will shut you down hard...... I myself wouldn't use both in a cycle.

[RON]

I mean they shut down your nateral productin of test very bad. This in its self is hard to recoup. Even though it comes bad I would say those of us who have done this for any amout of time can tell you its never the same again after a while. I can tell when I'm off I'm just not the same person as I used to be. Thats why I'm on more and more. These 2 substance do it worse than most for me so its harder to recoup. Specially deca which is why I've only used it once.

[PiecinItUp]

Alright, what if I were to knock out the tren , what would be safe to replace it with.

[TheMudMan]

I would run the Tren over the deca any day.

[PiecinItUp]

so can I drop the deca all together and not use EQ either?

[TheMudMan]

so can I drop the deca all together and not use EQ either?

Yes you can....... Prop and Tren would be a great cycle.

prop 100mg ed 1 - 14
Tren 75mg/ed wks 1 - 12
Nolva 10mg/ed wks 1 - 14
L-dex .25/ed wks 1 - 14

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

[PiecinItUp]

Wouldn't that be more of a cutting cycle, im already pretty lean, wanted to gain a good 15-20 pounds. I used sust before and enjoyed it. Is it stupid to do it alone like say....

Sust 750mg/wk 1-12
Tren 75mg/ed 3-10
1 - 13 Arimidex .25 ed
1 - 13 Nolva 10 mg ED
PCT

I already have the fina to make tren, and I can get Organon Sust for sure, I don't think i could find EQ

[TheMudMan]

Wouldn't that be more of a cutting cycle, im already pretty lean, wanted to gain a good 15-20 pounds. I used sust before and enjoyed it. Is it stupid to do it alone like say....

Sust 750mg/wk 1-12
Tren 75mg/ed 3-10
1 - 13 Arimidex .25 ed
1 - 13 Nolva 10 mg ED
PCT

I already have the fina to make tren, and I can get Organon Sust for sure, I don't think i could find EQ

It can be a cutting or bulking cycle...... The AS used realy doesn't matter... it helps but in the end it's the diet...... take in enough calories to bulk... then you will...... the same goes for cutting as well.

The cycle you posted looks good. Just extend the Anti-e's to week 15..... SUS clears in 3 weeks...... So 3 weeks after last SUS injection start PCT

[RON]

Just like Mud said its all in the diet. I could cut on what you have there. Just have to wait till all that water left to see it

[PiecinItUp]

Thanks for all your help both to you Mud and also to Ron. I'll let you guys know how it goes.