lets see what u guys think!

[IwillBEhuge]

whats up fella's, I am going to be starting a bulk and then cutting cycle for summer, i was thinking of this let me know what you guys think
1-10 sust 500mg week
1-10 deca 300mg week
11-20 bold 400mg week
11-20 winni 50 mg eod
20-27 clen 2weeks on one off increasing one pill per day till high of six and then back down to zero, week off, start again
22- 26 or 28 clomid 100 mgs ed 1st week 50mg ed rest of the way

22 yrs old 180lbs, 5'5" 16.5 bi's, 23" quads, 30"waste about 10 to 12% bf

should throw in suspension anywhere I have a bottle i was thinking maybe the last 3 weeks to keep stength up when my diet is really kicked in,
I wanna be ripped to shreds, ok well lets here it good or bad

[IwillBEhuge]

ok man but why not thats what I want constructive criticism, let me here it

[monster.]

I would say, shoot the sust and deca twice a week (every 4 days), end the deca before the sust(probally around week 8), I would throw in the suspension with the EQ/winstrol .. I think it would be better to run your PCT, Clomid starting a week after your last shot of sust..

Anything else i missed fill me in guys

[IwillBEhuge]

ok so you want me to run clomid through out the winni, and eq cycle, i think thats what your sayin, also my suspention is 50mg a ml i know to shoot it twice a day can I do 25mg twice a day

[IwillBEhuge]

or did you mean a week after suspension is done and not sust

[IwillBEhuge]

you should run the test all the way through, it will be easier to recover, i also think you will need a lot more clomid to fully recover from a 20 week cycle, clomid is super cheap anyways, are you planning on doing a show or something, at 5'5' and 180, you must be pretty stacked

i got a nice build yeah, but I just want to be in the best condition of my life, i got a little while before I do a show though, after I get totally shredded I can see exactly what I need to work on, my left lat is a little small, and the calves are coming up high insertions, but no worries mate

[Chapman393]

You can sub the EQ for Deca it wont shut you down as hared either.

[monster.]

ok so you want me to run clomid through out the winni, and eq cycle, i think thats what your sayin, also my suspention is 50mg a ml i know to shoot it twice a day can I do 25mg twice a day

I'd advise running the clomid after your test/deca to restart your natural test productin, at first.. After taking a second look at it, you could run the suspension with the EQ and winstrol , and then start PCT after you finish the suspension.. 50mgs a day.. haha..thats not much i might just leave it out..

Any reason why you would want to run these two back to back like this? I would start the second cutting cycle after you're PCT...just my opinion

[Chapman393]

I'd advise running the clomid after your test/deca to restart your natural test productin, at first.. After taking a second look at it, you could run the suspension with the EQ and winstrol , and then start PCT after you finish the suspension.. 50mgs a day.. haha..thats not much i might just leave it out..

Any reason why you would want to run these two back to back like this? I would start the second cutting cycle after you're PCT...just my opinion

Right on Monster EQ it the S***.

[IwillBEhuge]

no real reason I just thought it might work pretty good, but if you think I should split in to I might, also with how high should I go on suspension

[Chapman393]

no real reason I just thought it might work pretty good, but if you think I should split in to I might, also with how high should I go on suspension

Around 250mg E3-4Days

[IwillBEhuge]

no real reason I just thought it might work pretty good, but if you think I should split in to I might, also with how high should I go on suspension

[monster.]

no real reason I just thought it might work pretty good, but if you think I should split in to I might, also with how high should I go on suspension

I think it would be a better idea to split them up because, If you don't restart your system after the test/deca , you will lose the majority of what you gained from that cycle.. You need to have your natural test running by that time that is important.. 50mgs a day for the suspension is kinda low, I would go closer to 100mgs a day, but the decision depends on your cycle experience..

Looks good though man

good luck

[alpineslide]

whats up fella's, I am going to be starting a bulk and then cutting cycle for summer, i was thinking of this let me know what you guys think
1-10 sust 500mg week
1-10 deca 300mg week
11-20 bold 400mg week
11-20 winni 50 mg eod
20-27 clen 2weeks on one off increasing one pill per day till high of six and then back down to zero, week off, start again
22- 26 or 28 clomid 100 mgs ed 1st week 50mg ed rest of the way

If your going to run a 20 week cycle I think I'd try something like this:
1-20 500 mg Sust, but I personally prefer Test enanthate
1-14 300- 400 mg EQ or Deca, why switch mid cycle....they both take a while to kick in. I'd stick with one or the other.
15-20 winny 50 mg ED
20-27 clen
22-26 clomid 300 mg day 1, 100 mg days 2-10, 50 mg days 11-28

I'd also have run .5 mg arimidex weeks 1 - 22 ed and have nolvadex on hand to use if needed.

I wouldn't try to bulk then cut withing the same cycle either...choose one or the other.

tear it up guys, but that's what I would probably do.

[IwillBEhuge]

ok thanks monster then maybe I will hold off and do the winni, eq cycle after wards, also do you think hcg might be smart after sust deca then do clomid

[monster.]

HCG in my opinion would be better used during a cycle not for PCT.. Use the clomid this will gurantee you keep the majority of your gains.. If you considered running a much longer cycle then i would throw the HCG in.. I don't feel its necessary for what you have planned.. Some guys think its mandatory, some don't..

good luck bro

[IwillBEhuge]

can't get arimidex I wish i could but I do hav plenty of nolva

[IwillBEhuge]

HCG in my opinion would be better used during a cycle not for PCT.. Use the clomid this will gurantee you keep the majority of your gains.. If you considered running a much longer cycle then i would throw the HCG in.. I don't feel its necessary for what you have planned.. Some guys think its mandatory, some don't..

good luck bro

cool thanks again monster, i appreciate the help, just wasa wondering ya know

[alpineslide]

can't get arimidex I wish i could but I do hav plenty of nolva

Try one of the research chemical sites....l-dex