My next cykle

[gregkovac]

Hello everyone it´s been a while. 2 years now, since i last did a cykle.
I´ve trained for about 11 years on and off. I´ve done various cykles about 10 total. My latest one was 8 weeks deca 500mg, test enth 750mg and tren 75mg ED.


My stats are 223lbs, 6´14" and about 15% bf .

I would like some opinions on my cykle. Here it goes:
Week 1-12 Equipose 600mg/week
Week 1-4 D-ball 50mg ED
Week 4-14 HCG 500iu every 4th day.
Week 6-12 Trenbolone 100mg ED
Week 8-14 Propionate 100mg ED
Week 8-14 Winstrol 50mg ED
Week 6-10 T-3 and clen with keto
Week 1-15 femara 2.5mg ED
Week 1-17 Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 14-18 clomid 300/100/50/50
Week 14-16 Clen
Week 16-18 ECA

Thanks in advance.

[BUYLONGTERM]

a couple of things I noticed right off bat. First, why aren't you running the Prop since day one? 2. I don't think you will need HCG for this cycle, especially in week 4. However, it's always good to have it on hand.

[Da Bull]

Pretty heavy cycle,my Q is why aren't you running the prop from the beggining??

[gregkovac]

First i´d like to thank you for the fast responses. Now for some more questions, getting confused about the hcg thingy.
How should i use hcg instead? you really didn´t tell me that.
I´ve read on various threads that by using it this way it would help your nuts from shrinkage. And make the recovery pct much easier. Isn´t that true? Pls help me out on that matter i´ve really tried to look around for answers but everyone seems to have a different point of view. If i use prop throughout cykle wouldn´t it be a bit too long 14 weeks of the same short acting ester? And finally should i remove the dball if i decide to go with 14 weeks of prop. Because then i don´t need the dballs to get things going?

[symatech]

id run a long ester test instead of prop,

[RoNNy THe BuLL]

IMO...
I would take out the Prop and add in longer-ester Test. I wouldn't run Keto either, it's pointless to run Keto for 4 weeks. It'll take you between 3 days to a week to fall into Ketosis depending on your carb intake. If you're going to run Keto, run it throughout or near the end.

I would change it around so it looks something like this...

Weeks 1-5 - 40mg D-Bol ED (D-Bols a waste and money if you ask me though)
Weeks 1-12 - 500mg EQ
Weeks 1-13 - 500mg to 750mg Test Enanthate/Cyp
Weeks 9-15 - 100mg Fina ED
Weeks 9-15 - 50mg Winny ED

Weeks 1-2 - ECA
Weeks 3-4 - Clen
Weeks 5-6 - ECA
Weeks 7-8 - Clen
Weeks 9-12/13 - T3
Weeks 12/13 - 15 - Clen
Weeks 16-18 - ECA
Weeks 18-20 - Clen
Weeks 20+ - ECA

IF you decide to drop into Keto, make the most of it and do it on week 7 and run it all the way through to week 15. Then slowly carb back up, very very slowly, the bounceback from T3 won't be pretty if you take in too much.

Just my two cents bro.

[RoNNy THe BuLL]

Oh yeah, no need for HCG. Save it for Post Cycle Therapy.

[BDTR]

Dont use HCG for post cycle, it mimics LH so your body will not try and produce it and your recovery will be hindered.

Oh yeah, no need for HCG. Save it for Post Cycle Therapy.

[gregkovac]

Ok i´ll save the hcg if my nuts shrink during cykle only. Is this correct?
And with keto i meant Ketotifen to clear my receptors from clen not the diet keto. But thanks for your input about T-3 and carb intake. So here´s how my new modified cykle looks with the help of you:
Weeks 1-5 - 40mg D-Bol ED (just to kickstart things because i´ve chosen enanthate)
Weeks 1-12 - 500mg EQ
Weeks 1-10 - 500mg Test Enanthate/Cyp
Weeks 9-15 - 100mg Fina ED
Weeks 10-15 - 50mg Winny ED
Weeks 10-16- 100mgTest prop ED
Weeks 9-12/13 - T3
Weeks 12/13 - 15 - Clen
Weeks 16-18 - ECA
Weeks 18-20 - Clen
Weeks 20+ - ECA

Was this better?
Thanks again guys. And i heard it´s a good thing to run test one week longer then fina to make the pct easier.

[symatech]

I would extend the enanthate a week longer than the eq. but thats just how i would do it. your way is alright too.