Starting my Second Cycle Next Week

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-08-2004, 08:11 AM

Hey guys,

I'm back from a while off (the board, not working out) Had a slight shoulder injury which cut back on my workouts the past few months, but it is feeling much better now. Anyway, I posted my new cycle a few months back and I got alot of flack about the size and amount of gear I am using. When it was first suggested to me, many of you said it was GREAT! Then lots of you turned and said it was too much. Well I got all of the gear listed below and I am ready to start next week. ANY THOUGHT??? Would love to use it all, but if most of you tell me to drop something, I will consider it.

1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
1-10 Test Enan 500mg/wk
1-13 EQ 600 mg/wk
11-16 prop 100mg/ed
11-16 winny 50mg/ed
11-16 tren 75mg/ed

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-08-2004, 09:35 AM

Bump

**Mallet** · 02-08-2004, 09:41 AM

Looks good to me bro!

I wouldn't change anything!

I'm sure you've got your pct's all laid out as well...

You'll definately see some nice gains from that stack...it's well thought out.

**BIG21** · 02-08-2004, 09:45 AM

i would run my test e at a higher dose than my eq

**Mallet** · 02-08-2004, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by BIG21

i would run my test e at a higher dose than my eq

I missed that!...ya 600mgs for test or drop the EQ to 500mgs/week

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-08-2004, 09:49 AM

OK,

What you guys think would be better lowering the Test or the EQ???

**usualsuspect** · 02-08-2004, 09:54 AM

I personally only like to add a compound or two for every subsequent cycle. If I remember correctly didn't you run Test Eth alone for your first and put on like 15 to 20lbs? How many of those pounds did you keep?

Since your first cycle was a success and as I suppose your recovery went well, what is the reason for running an advanced cycle as such when you only have one cycle under your belt and your body responded very well to one compound? Why not just bump the dosage on the test...run it longer this time...and add a compound or two to the mix. I think you can make just as good gains with less gear and not have to worry about as many sides than you would running a plethora of compounds. You can always keep building on down the road.

~US~

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-08-2004, 09:58 AM

Usual,

Thanks for the input. On my 1st cycle I ran Dbol , Test Ent, & Deca and put on a good 20lbs Started at aroun 197, Was at 222 at the end of my cylce...now 209lbs.

I would like to hear more from others. Usual makes a good point!

**BIG21** · 02-08-2004, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by BiggerBri2002

OK,

What you guys think would be better lowering the Test or the EQ???

well i definetely wouldnt lower the test...if you can raise it to at least 100mg higher than your eq...but if this is only your second cycle, like usual said i would save the prop, winny, and tren for next cycle...so i would do this

week 1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
week 1-13 test e 750mg/week
week 1-12 eq 400/week

but this is just me but let us know what your final decision will be

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-08-2004, 10:16 AM

OK...so I guess I could run a good cycle with the prop, winny and tren I have left over...hmmmm Maybe that is what I should do...any others out there like to chime in???

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-08-2004, 11:15 AM

bump

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-09-2004, 09:00 AM

Bump

**Dude-Man** · 02-09-2004, 10:11 AM

I was wondering how all that went. Did you lean out any more after your cycle? If i were you i would do something a bit different because i know that bf/appearance is an issue to you and you're not looking to bulk again.. unless you've changed your mind. I'd just do a simple

1-10 test prop 150 eod or 75 ed.
1-8 fina 60 ed

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-09-2004, 10:24 AM

Well I Have leaned out since the cycle ending and I am feeling pretty good about myself. But I feel that at my size 6ft, that I still need more size to get where I want to be. Being that I naturally have a lean 6ft frame, I need to have more bulk and weight that say someone 5'9 to be noticeably. So, yeah I think that I need to gain some more pure muscle mass and size and then I can cut back down. Now that I have done it after my first cycle, I know that I can do it again, so that fear is gone

Would love to get more thought on what I should do with my cycle should I got with:

A1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
1-10 Test Enan 500mg/wk
1-13 EQ 600 mg/wk
11-16 prop 100mg/ed
11-16 winny 50mg/ed
11-16 tren 75mg/ed

OR

B)week 1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
week 1-13 test e 750mg/week
week 1-12 eq 400/week

**scottninpo** · 02-09-2004, 10:29 AM

i like b better, although i would only run the test at 500mg, this is still only your second cycle, no need to up the test unless you stop gaining at 500mg, more is not necessarily better, remember, the more you use now, the more you'll need later

**BIG21** · 02-09-2004, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by scottninpo

i like b better, although i would only run the test at 500mg, this is still only your second cycle, no need to up the test unless you stop gaining at 500mg, more is not necessarily better, remember, the more you use now, the more you'll need later

true and youre still running at least 100mg more of test than your eq that way

**tryingtogetbig** · 02-09-2004, 10:37 AM

okay, here's my .02

1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
1-15 Test Enan 500mg/wk
1-14 EQ 400 mg/wk
11-16 winny 50mg/ed

Running your test a little longer will keep you gaining longer. Eq should help give a nice hard gain. Winny at end to really harden up all of your gains. Good 2nd cycle and you can always add more to the mix on your next cycle.

And of course anti-e's and PCT!!!!

Just my opinion.

peace,

ttgb

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-09-2004, 11:24 AM

OK,

Keep them coming...like to hear more

**dumblucky** · 02-09-2004, 11:45 AM

I think its a little stong for a second cycle.. but Im not going to say dont do it
I think you dosages are fine.. but then again I dont see a diffrence between 500mg of test and 700mg in my experience

**Bartleby** · 02-09-2004, 01:16 PM

I like cycle B a lot, although I think youll be fine with the test at 500mg/wk...get some more prop/fina/winny and save it for a cutter...good luck...

**BUYLONGTERM** · 02-09-2004, 01:18 PM

With EQ, you do NOt have to run your Test dose higher as you would Deca . I would however run TEST at least equal to the EQ.

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-09-2004, 01:20 PM

So then would this be a good idea:

week 1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
week 1-13 test e 500mg/week
week 1-12 eq 500/week

**Bartleby** · 02-09-2004, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by BiggerBri2002

So then would this be a good idea:

week 1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
week 1-13 test e 500mg/week
week 1-12 eq 500/week

yep that looks good to me...you planning on running an anti-e throughout?? I assume youll at least have some nolva on hand...good luck...

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-09-2004, 02:08 PM

Yeah,

I got Nolva and Clomid...don't worry.

Still would like to hear from more Mods & Vets.

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-10-2004, 09:13 AM

Bump

**toolman** · 02-10-2004, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by tryingtogetbig

okay, here's my .02

1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
1-15 Test Enan 500mg/wk
1-14 EQ 400 mg/wk
11-16 winny 50mg/ed

Running your test a little longer will keep you gaining longer. Eq should help give a nice hard gain. Winny at end to really harden up all of your gains. Good 2nd cycle and you can always add more to the mix on your next cycle.

And of course anti-e's and PCT!!!!

Just my opinion.

peace,

ttgb

This is the cycle that has my vote. All the others are way too much gear for a second cycle.

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-10-2004, 12:49 PM

Yeah,

I am liking the Dbol . Test Ent, EQ, Winny cycle myself now. That seems to be where I will go, but I would like to hear from more of you and will make my decision tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone for the help.

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-10-2004, 12:56 PM

PS guys,

If I go with this cycle will my Tren and Prop be OK to keep on the shelf for another 4-6 months?

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-11-2004, 08:34 AM

OK guys,

I have made my decision to go with the following:

1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
1-15 Test Enan 500mg/wk
1-14 EQ 500 mg/wk
11-16 winny 50mg/ed

Thanks for all of the helo. I will be posting my cycle diary when I start next week with my current pics and progress pics each day. Also looking into starting a new workout routine during this cycle, but not sure.

Bri

**Dude-Man** · 02-11-2004, 10:46 AM

the tren and prop will be fine on the shelf for at least a year.

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-17-2004, 09:13 AM

Hey guys....one more thing 400mg of EQ or 500mg????

**Butch** · 02-17-2004, 06:38 PM

Hey Bri, I am getting ready for my thrid cycle and it will consist somethng simialr to your second. Maybe this might help you (I plan on running this my 3rd time around):

wk 1-4: Dbol 35 ED
wk 1-10: Test Eth 500mgs
wk 1-10: EQ 400mgs
Maybe some winny at week 7-14
And then of course the usual PCT supps. I plan on running Nolva with the dbol and maybe even all the waqy through the cyc....don't know yet.

I am looking to gain maybe 20 pounds. MY bf is at 14%. So I like what TTGB said in his cycle recommendation....I hope this works for me...it has ben almost one whole year since i last ran a cycle...manI cannot wait.

Please keep us updated on your progress!

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-17-2004, 09:22 PM

Yeah,

I am going to run my EQ at 400mg/week doing 100mg with my 250mg of test e twice a week and then two EQ alone injections of 100mg

Will look like this:
Mon 250mg Test E (1cc) 100mg EQ (2cc)
Tues 100mg EQ (2cc)
Wed-None
Thurs 250mg Test E (1cc) 100mg EQ (2cc)
Sat 100mg EQ (2cc)
Dbol 35mg everyday

Sound good?

**BiggerBri2002** · 02-18-2004, 08:52 AM

Hey guys,

Here is of pic of me today weighing in at around 212. Not too happy with the way I look but I am an honest guy and don't hind behind avatars like some. Anyway, my injections have been going really smoothly. The EQ is going in so easily and w/o much pain at all.

Would like any comments or whatever from anybody out there.