honest opinions???

[Safety-1]

the good old stand by

wks 1-12 test 500mg/wk
wks 1-10 deca 300ml/wk


What is the true purpose of the deca in this stack? Is there anything better to stack with the test for mass? Ive ran this stack a couple times and had good luck with it. But is there something better to add to the test than the deca?

[scottninpo]

what's your cycle history?

[Safety-1]

two cycles. same as listed above. Both QV products. 6'2'' 220 pounds

[vaeltaire]

I would run the deca till week 11 but I like EQ and what you do gain off of it is quality mass and you do not have as much bloat with the EQ as you do with the deca. The EQ will also help with some of the bloat of the test to.

[Da Bull]

How about a test/EQ cycle....the gains will come on slow,but quality lean mass is the objective.

[Da Bull]

ha....we posted the same time.........

[Safety-1]

does anyone know the actual purpose of the deca though? Does it help the test? Or are there other reasons that it is so commonly stacked with it? Just want to try and learn the chemistry of it, why it is done so often, and....if there is something better. Thanks for the advice vaeltaire. I'll look into that

[vaeltaire]

Yeah we did

[Safety-1]

will gains come on slower with equipose than deca?

[vaeltaire]

Yes, but what you put on with the EQ is quality mass and you will have a better chance of keeping what you put on with the Eq rahter than with the deca. Deca and EQ are really about the same. More bloat with the deca though.

[Safety-1]

hmmmm, well then what do you think of this cycle?

wks 1-4 anadrol 30mg per day ed
wks 1-12 test enanthate 750 mg/wk
wks 1-10 EQ 400 mg/wk

[vaeltaire]

Everything looks good but I would run the EQ till week 11. Why so much dosage with the test though why not just do 500mg? Unless 750mg is really what you want to do. How many test cycles have you done with Test enan?

[Safety-1]

only done two cycles with enanthate. Both were with 500 mg. Im fine with 500 mg, just thought 750 might give me a little more. But....Im not a chemist on this so I know my doses could be wrong. I do know there's a point where more isnt always better. Would you recommend running this stack(same except test changed to 500) over running the same with deca? What do you think the differences would be?

[RoNNy THe BuLL]

Purpose of Deca can be many things. One is a positive nitrogen balance so you use Protiens and other Amino Acids more efficiently and another is joint lubrication. Makes a big difference if you suffer from joint pain.

[vaeltaire]

Yeah I would. The differences between the deca and EQ is that the deca kicks in faster you will gain a little more with the deca and you have the bloat with deca also. With EQ it takes longer to kick in but what you gain is Quality mass and you have little to no bloat and you will be able to keep more of your gains off the EQ. As far as the test dosage I would ask some more people to see what they suggest.