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  1. 02-10-2004, 07:48 PM #1
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    A gains keeper formula for post cycle

    Does anybody know of a good gains keeper formula after completing PCT?

    I just began my 4th cycle... Fina/Prop/EQ for 12 weeks... my goal is to get hard and vascular, with more priority to lowering bf than gaining lbm.

    The problem is that I am going to be completely finished (including PCT) around the middle of June. In my past experiences I've gone from looking hard and full to soft after coming off PCT, even if I retain the majority of my gains I still feel inadequate when compared to being 'on'. I think that goes without saying for everybody though.

    Now my question is: is there anything I can take post cycle to maintain that hard look a little further? I'd hate to look soft at the peak of summer. I am going to be running Clomid/Nolva during PCT and probably staying on the Nolva year round after this cycle.

    Any suggestions for looking good post PCT? Thanks.
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    never come off!!!
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  3. 02-10-2004, 08:31 PM #3
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    right on..
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  4. 02-10-2004, 08:33 PM #4
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    great post man.........

    i will bump.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polska
    Does anybody know of a good gains keeper formula after completing PCT?

    I just began my 4th cycle... Fina/Prop/EQ for 12 weeks... my goal is to get hard and vascular, with more priority to lowering bf than gaining lbm.

    The problem is that I am going to be completely finished (including PCT) around the middle of June. In my past experiences I've gone from looking hard and full to soft after coming off PCT, even if I retain the majority of my gains I still feel inadequate when compared to being 'on'. I think that goes without saying for everybody though.

    Now my question is: is there anything I can take post cycle to maintain that hard look a little further? I'd hate to look soft at the peak of summer. I am going to be running Clomid/Nolva during PCT and probably staying on the Nolva year round after this cycle.

    Any suggestions for looking good post PCT? Thanks.
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  5. 02-10-2004, 08:44 PM #5
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    true never come off.............that is the way to stay hard............I have heard a lot of goog things about IGF-1 during PCT to helpe keep your gains, not sure if it works but i think I am trying it out.
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    I'm just takin a shot in the dark here, but what if you did some clen afterwards? 2 on 2 off of course.
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    i would use some clen ...it will help shed the bf that you do gain, and keep energy high for training and should harden you with a good diet
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  8. 02-10-2004, 10:32 PM #8
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    Interesting. Isnt clen catabolic though...? I've never used it. The IGF-1 sounds like a good idea, albeit expensive. Bump for more opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polska
    Interesting. Isnt clen catabolic though...? I've never used it. The IGF-1 sounds like a good idea, albeit expensive. Bump for more opinions
    NO...clen is ANTI catabolic..T3 is catabolic
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    insulin ...gives you a real full look.great for people with low bf.
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    Insulin , along with cell-tech right after your training. I also use tribulus and clen .
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    Scared as **** to use insulin ...... I might try the clen though
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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWeightBaby
    true never come off.............that is the way to stay hard............I have heard a lot of goog things about IGF-1 during PCT to helpe keep your gains, not sure if it works but i think I am trying it out.
    what is IGF-1?
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    Insulininlike growth factor 1 - do some research bro
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  16. 02-11-2004, 10:56 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roidfever
    Insulininlike growth factor 1 - do some research bro
    sorry bro but i really never was really interested in insulin thats prolly why i never heard of it before and plus i still am doin research. but thanks for tellin me
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