pre summer dilema

[bestbod85]

hey guys, wondering if you could help me.

i'm torn between two cycles ... ok well as you know summer is only 3 months away .. my goal for summer is to get ripped up ... i have about 2olbs to lose ... but i want to put on some mass as well ... so i figure on this cycle


d-bol 3 tabs a day for 6 weeks with nolvedex then clomid
then t3 and clen
or
winstrol tabs (it's all i could get) 5 tabs a day
clen . 6 tabs a day
t3 1-2 tabs a day (run these till summer)

getting bigger isnt too important for me but it would be nice ...i guess what i'm wondering is if i bulk with d-bol will i have time to cut up before summer?
is there any better cutting cycles out there?

any prior experiences and advice on either which i should do or a better cycle would be most appreciated
( by the way i'm 6'2'' 208lbs 17% bodyfat 22 yrs old)
thanks

[Mart651]

Both of those suck.
I would do a little more research.
I find diet is the only true cutter but I do use prop and fina while cutting.

[bestbod85]

whats wrong with the winsstrol cycle ... i will be dieting as well

[Mart651]

whats wrong with the winsstrol cycle ... i will be dieting as well

Every cycle should have test in it.
Winny will dry your joints and does not help on weight loss, only on hardening the muscles and in my oppinion not that much.
How many cycles have you done?

[bigdog81]

squash both of those..
u need some test...
what can you get your hands on?

[RJM03]

Oral only cycles bad idea healthwise, and they blow. No pun intended.

[bestbod85]

this is my first cycle ... i have test but isnt that for bulking? ... i have limited acess to steriods but i can get my hands on the following d-bol , winny clen t3 t4 clomid proviron nolvedex ......
i was hoping that the clen with the t3 and proper diet whould help burn off the fat and whinny to make my muscles look denser ...if you have any suggestions on doseages or combo of those steriods ive listed that would be appreciated ...but i cant get any other kinds of steriods

[bigdog81]

first cycle = test only ....TEST ONLY!!!!
get smart in the kitchen..!!
you will get where you want..you have to train and eat to achieve it..
but no cycle w/o test....

[bestbod85]

thanks bigdog but will i be able to cut in time for summer? .... what do u suggest for cutting after the test?

[Mart651]

Hey this is my last comment on this one, it has been discuussed a thousand times. Dont use the winny or the D bol, just diet and cardio is all you need.

this is my first cycle ... i have test but isnt that for bulking? ... i have limited acess to steriods but i can get my hands on the following d-bol , winny clen t3 t4 clomid proviron nolvedex ......
i was hoping that the clen with the t3 and proper diet whould help burn off the fat and whinny to make my muscles look denser ...if you have any suggestions on doseages or combo of those steriods ive listed that would be appreciated ...but i cant get any other kinds of steriods

[bigdog81]

i agree....bro...
cardio like crazy and diet is the key.
gear only helps you..it doesnt do it for you. (people think it is a magic drug)
if you dont want it bad enough to do it solo w/o gear.
then you are wasting you time by using it.
u have to be dedicated in the beginning...
dbol is a no no.
eq and tren both are good to harden up with.
both i dont know if i would do either one..since its your first cycle..
stick to the basics......."test" train hard, diet..etc..

[cpt steele]

20lbs in like 4 months is nothing figure droping 2lbs a week, you should be able to tighten up naturally in that amount of time

[cpt steele]

oh and what is your stats, if i go by your name your only 19 anyway to early to start with gear

[bigdog81]

good check cpt...
i didnt realize that....
whats your age bro?

[Jackman]

O would do prop bro for 8 weeks would be good what what your looking for....

[monkeyjuice]

diet & cardio will find you happy w/ the results

[dangit]

If you're not going to compete and just want to look cut, then plain ol test enathate will do just nicelly. I was on that this summer and had veins coming out everywere. My diet was pretty strick though, but I was cut.

500mg a week of test doesn't seem to make me bloated at all. Plus it's a **** cheap cycle compared to doing winny or dbols and much safer. And you might just keep your gains after the cycle too

[asiancuts]

1st cycle-test only. no dbol for a cutting cycle. and when your ready, prop/fina is a good way to get some size and drop some excess fat.