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02-27-2004, 10:57 PM #1
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02-27-2004, 11:07 PM #2
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02-27-2004, 11:09 PM #3
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02-27-2004, 11:10 PM #4
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**** thats what i was afraid of. QV is the most expensive on my list :[
My experience lies with Ttokkyo and Organon. Cant get ahold of those anymore.
so gonna try these brands
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02-27-2004, 11:11 PM #5
ditto...
Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
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02-27-2004, 11:45 PM #6
I say Shanghai Labs, that is the right direction to a cheaper yet sufficent brand.
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02-28-2004, 01:09 PM #7
yea, i would find a good UG lab... cheaper than QV, better quality imo, and best of all... domestic.
but of what you listed, here's how id rank them...
1 QV (faked alot)
2 Denkall
3 Brovel (scary)
4 Tornel (underdosed, underfilled)
and by the way, ttokkyo labs is out of business, organon is still in production, and as always, its great gear.
good luck.
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02-28-2004, 01:10 PM #8
I rate them as all mex gear, does that help?
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02-28-2004, 01:29 PM #9
Mexican gear is the most expensive on my list as well.
If you want to go for quality go British Dragon, if you want to go for price go for Shanghai Labs, if you don't want to pay out the ass, DON'T BUY MEX GEAR.
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02-28-2004, 02:13 PM #10
All that stuff is vet gear and can be picked up for around 20$ a vial.
Thats not expensive.
As far as the brands QV and Denkall are the best of the two
Tornell and Brovel are both underdosed tornell by about 30% and brovel by about 35%.
Some other common brands that you mught see are Tokkyo which you should stay away from and reforvit which is underdosed by almost 50%.
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02-28-2004, 02:16 PM #11
Originally Posted by TRE
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02-28-2004, 02:19 PM #12
Still in production but there are so many fakes I wouldn't inject the stuff into a friend
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02-28-2004, 02:21 PM #13
Originally Posted by TRE
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02-28-2004, 03:10 PM #14
Originally Posted by The Fallen Angel
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02-28-2004, 03:18 PM #15
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Huh?
Where did you hear that Ttokkyo is gone out of business?
QV and Ttokkyo are manufactured in the same building / warehouse! My guess is that if Ttokkyo is gone then so is QV.
I think your info provider is wrong though.
Both companies are still going strong, dude!
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02-28-2004, 03:24 PM #16
Nope your wrong, the owner of ttokkyo was busted in san fransisco 8 months ago for trafficking of ketamine. Ttokkyo is not out of business but have cut done on production and bootleggers have started making more fakes since ttokkyo doesn't stop them anymore. I think your thinking of Denkall and QV, they are both owned by the same person.
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02-28-2004, 08:37 PM #17
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Oops, my bad!
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02-28-2004, 08:45 PM #18
You're right, your bad. Ttokkyo is garbage now, I wouldn't trust it.
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02-28-2004, 08:49 PM #19
Originally Posted by Rhino58
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02-28-2004, 10:00 PM #20
Originally Posted by 50%Natural
If you look up Shanghai Lab on here you'll see quite a few posts.
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02-28-2004, 10:12 PM #21
because the owner of that lab says in his disclaimer when you purchase from him.. not to use his lab name all over the boards............
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02-28-2004, 10:20 PM #22
Originally Posted by Rhino58
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02-29-2004, 09:03 AM #23
Originally Posted by spywizard
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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