Another Newbie looking for help

**New2JUlCE** · 02-28-2004, 09:03 PM

You've all read threads like this a million times but I feel better about doing it once I get a few more questions answered so here goes. I've been researching AS for the past 2 years and have considered using them many times but never have. I finally decided to pick up some gear and was thinking about getting QV Deca 300. I know this is a good beginner substance but I've been told by quite a few people that the first time is where you get your best results and that I should stack it with some kind of test. So now I'm debating whether or not to take it by itself which I know will give me good results or to add something in the mix. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Also, I've read that QV stuff can't be counterfeited, is this true? As I would imagine anything is possible and can be counterfeited. I also read a post on here about anaphalactic shock caused by steroids ,,how true is that and what are the chances of it actually happening? I would imagine very unlikely, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

**inheritmylife** · 02-28-2004, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by New2JUlCE

You've all read threads like this a million times but I feel better about doing it once I get a few more questions answered so here goes. I've been researching AS for the past 2 years and have considered using them many times but never have. I finally decided to pick up some gear and was thinking about getting QV Deca 300. I know this is a good beginner substance but I've been told by quite a few people that the first time is where you get your best results and that I should stack it with some kind of test. So now I'm debating whether or not to take it by itself which I know will give me good results or to add something in the mix. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Also, I've read that QV stuff can't be counterfeited, is this true? As I would imagine anything is possible and can be counterfeited. I also read a post on here about anaphalactic shock caused by steroids,,how true is that and what are the chances of it actually happening? I would imagine very unlikely, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

I don't know of any documented cases of anaphalactic shock associated with hormones. I'm sure an injectable of some sort or other has caused it. Some UG products are probably not real big on quality control. So, toxins and proteins and such being present in the stuff is possible i'm sure. If it worries you, get a beesting kit with epinephrine.

QV can and has been counterfeited, look in the steroid pictures gallery.

Test only, or test and deca , never run deca alone. You can read up on why not. Every other thread on AR is devoted to that exact subject.

**razor67** · 02-28-2004, 09:24 PM

test enanthate would be your best bet...

**BuffGuy** · 02-29-2004, 12:08 AM

Not only should you stack Deca with Test, you really have to in order to prevent "deca dick".

Swellin · 02-29-2004, 12:20 AM

QV is one of the most faked brands out there.

Forget about deca only...that is a recipe for dissaster.
Test e as the others have said.

Heck, take a look at the thread that I linked in my signature about First Cycles. It is an excellent thread.

**PurePower** · 02-29-2004, 12:25 AM

Listen to the knowledgeable people on here bro...You SHOULD NOT take deca alone........At least stack it with 400mg of Test Cyp or Ena.........You will be sorry if you dont.

**PuddleMonkey** · 02-29-2004, 12:56 AM

You might consider a Test only cycle for a first. Save the deca for a second cycle to be stacked with a Test. Deca only is bad news. Personally I wouldn't do too much too fast until you know how your body is going to react to these substances. I'm in week 3 of a Test only first cycle and I'm growing like a freaking weed!