Tren and striation

**Doc Aiden** · 02-29-2004, 11:05 AM

I just finished up a low dose cycle of tren /winn/prop. Put on a lean 15lbs and loved every second of it.

My shoulders got ridiculously striated. They were good before but not like they are now. I was doing injections into each side delt once a week with 1 cc. Why did they get so striated? The oil inj? The tren? Will they stay like this? Whats the deal?

**TheMudMan** · 02-29-2004, 11:06 AM

Because you put on 15lbs of lean mass...... You lowered your LBM.

**Doc Aiden** · 02-29-2004, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Because you put on 15lbs of lean mass...... You lowered your LBM.

I would have thought that i increased my lbm....is it mostly permanent (with good diet and training) or does the striation go away post cycle (next few months?)

**LuvMuhRoids** · 02-29-2004, 11:09 AM

That's an excellent cutting cycle. For me tren just leaned me right out with out even trying to diet so hard. I can imagine if I tried. I experimented for a few weeks and ate nothing but white rice/chicken breast/protein shakes while tapering carbs off in the evening. Just in that time I was astonished at what I could do.

**Doc Aiden** · 02-29-2004, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids

That's an excellent cutting cycle. For me tren just leaned me right out with out even trying to diet so hard. I can imagine if I tried. I experimented for a few weeks and ate nothing but white rice/chicken breast/protein shakes while tapering carbs off in the evening. Just in that time I was astonished at what I could do.

What were your results? Did you see any striation? How well did you keep your gains post cycle?

**TheMudMan** · 02-29-2004, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Doc Aiden

I would have thought that i increased my lbm....is it mostly permanent (with good diet and training) or does the striation go away post cycle (next few months?)

Maybe that's it....... But you lowered your BF and that's why you look striated.

I just started Prop/EQ/Fina/Var and I hope to see the same results you got.

**NoLimits** · 02-29-2004, 11:17 AM

I also think that a Tren /Prop cycle along with the winny thins your skin out to a certain extent. This would also explain that look Plus like Mudman said, you droped bodyfat!

**Doc Aiden** · 02-29-2004, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by NoLimits

I also think that a Tren/Prop cycle along with the winny thins your skin out to a certain extent. This would also explain that look Plus like Mudman said, you droped bodyfat!

My bodyfat roughly stayed the same...i come in around 9 percent. What i want to know is how permernant the striations can be with respect to a clean diet and good training....

**NoLimits** · 02-29-2004, 11:25 AM

Sorry to say, but the hardness and the vascularity you see will not stay with you once you are off the cycle! I wish it did! But over time, if you stay off, they will go away. But you are right, eat clean and continue to train... that is the best way to keep them around for as long as you can.

**MachZ** · 02-29-2004, 11:49 AM

I have the exact same situation on prop/tren with my shoulders.
My delts are huge and striated, started to really notice around week 6. They were big before but wk.14 now its just freeky, even my dentist told me my shoulders are big and they had a hard time trying to do a full jaw xray as the machine kept hitting me. Looks like like I did a cycle for sure but I expect to loose some over time once off.

**Doc Aiden** · 02-29-2004, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by MachZ

I have the exact same situation on prop/tren with my shoulders.
My delts are huge and striated, started to really notice around week 6. They were big before but wk.14 now its just freeky, even my dentist told me my shoulders are big and they had a hard time trying to do a full jaw xray as the machine kept hitting me. Looks like like I did a cycle for sure but I expect to loose some over time once off.

Anyone think the oil buildup contributes to the striating?

**Doc Aiden** · 02-29-2004, 04:28 PM

bump

**LuvMuhRoids** · 02-29-2004, 04:43 PM

I think what happens is you build lean muscularity with no estrogen or water build up causing what appears to be cutting. In otherwords, you're building muscularity outward and not gaining bf%. There is little or no aromatizing with tren or these drugs. I think it's like the balloon that fills up with air. The more air the thinner the balloon becomes and stretches outward. It will appear thinner and more transparent.

**powerlifter** · 02-29-2004, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids

I think what happens is you build lean muscularity with no estrogen or water build up causing what appears to be cutting. In otherwords, you're building muscularity outward and not gaining bf%. There is little or no aromatizing with tren or these drugs. I think it's like the balloon that fills up with air. The more air the thinner the balloon becomes and stretches outward. It will appear thinner and more transparent.

Nice analogy Bro

**LuvMuhRoids** · 02-29-2004, 04:47 PM

Thank you...

Originally Posted by powerlifter

Nice analogy Bro

**powerlifter** · 02-29-2004, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids

Thank you...

Anytime Bro

**LightWeightBaby** · 02-29-2004, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids

I think what happens is you build lean muscularity with no estrogen or water build up causing what appears to be cutting. In otherwords, you're building muscularity outward and not gaining bf%. There is little or no aromatizing with tren or these ...drugs. I think it's like the balloon that fills up with air. The more air the thinner the balloon becomes and stretches outward. It will appear thinner and more transparent.

That analogy makes me all hot, a man knowing and using a good analogy everynow and then I find that to be of high caliber.

**w_rballs** · 02-29-2004, 10:59 PM

fina does the same thing to my shoulders. i dont diet that much or do cardio in the winter but anytime i do fina (alone) i get striations out the ass on my shoulders