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03-07-2004, 06:38 AM #1Senior Member
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Fvk Im stunned about loss of sex desires..please read
I have done cycles that have shut me down hard but Im doing a a simple cycle right now
Enan 400mg /wk1-16
cyp 400mg/wk1-16
dbols 50mg ed wk1-4
I cannot keep it up for the life of me while Im having sex. It'll deflate in seconds, Why is this happening? If anything, I should be getting very hard erections with the test but not this time. Could it be the dbols? I never had this problem with a simple cycle such as this.
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03-07-2004, 07:45 AM #2Originally Posted by rangerdudeleads
No matter what you shouldn't have any problems keeping it up on this cycle....... 800mg of test a week would keep a 100 year old man hard.
The only thing I can think of is what you think is test might be deca ...... Just a thought.
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03-07-2004, 08:09 AM #3
Yah I agree. I dont see what's happening here. Cyp and Enan are test so at 800mg you should be nailing it like a bull. Could be in your head? Also, no need to run these two together as Mud mentioned. They are both virtually the same. What brand of Cyp and Enan you have? Im just going to completely compliment MUDs post and say one of these you are taking is not test.
Originally Posted by TheMudMan
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03-07-2004, 08:30 AM #4Senior Member
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well Im running both cause I have them both and just want to use all of it up and get ready for a good stack my next cycle. Oh yea I have tornel enan which is underdosed and thats another reason and my cyp is syd group. Is there a chance dbols messed Mr winky up?
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03-07-2004, 09:56 AM #5Originally Posted by rangerdudeleads
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03-07-2004, 09:59 AM #6
high blood pressure is most likely your problem.
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03-07-2004, 10:02 AM #7
naaa, even tho that is an avg. to high dose of d, with all that test (if its real) you should be humping anything.
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03-07-2004, 10:13 AM #8
That much test would make a knothole in a fence look good!!
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03-07-2004, 10:15 AM #9Originally Posted by chrisAdams
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03-07-2004, 10:16 AM #10
That is the same thing I thought, but Deca cost twice as much...
So it would have to be an honest mistake, can't see someone
doing that one on purpose... What brand gear are you using?
Originally Posted by TheMudMan
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03-07-2004, 10:20 AM #11
true that...
Originally Posted by Tygh
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03-07-2004, 12:08 PM #12
dude with all that test you should be at full mast all day man, make sure it isnt bunk gear or maybe sombody has sold you deca with a test label glued on LOL....
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03-07-2004, 12:52 PM #13Senior Member
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I think rickson may be right, I do take anti's nolvs 20mg ed and .5 armidex ed but if I look puffy around nipples or they itch at all Ill get paranoid and take 80 mg nolvs and 1 mg armidex until I feel no more itching around nipples but my blood pressure may be high , I have a lot going on right now. Oh yea I know for a fact all the gear I get is legit so its not fake and dont think someone glued a deca label on a bottle of test..lol
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03-07-2004, 01:08 PM #14
drop the l-dex or at least cut it in half... I'd bet that is your problem
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03-07-2004, 03:02 PM #15
hmmm.. I didnt realize the high BP and using anti-e would cause that.
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03-07-2004, 06:53 PM #16Banned
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Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids
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03-07-2004, 07:20 PM #17
That's very interesting. Didn't know that. Would, in theory, low dosages of viagra etc...be useful during cycling to lower BP?
Originally Posted by toolman
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03-07-2004, 07:26 PM #18Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids
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03-07-2004, 07:44 PM #19Banned
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Originally Posted by symatech
LMR, yes it would keep your BP lower, but I would not self medicate for blood pressure with sidenafil (viagra). Your BP shouldn't be going up too much on cycle unless you have a precondition, so I would rather spend the 8-12 weeks with the minor increase rather than the dual action of test and viagra raising the love bone every time a stiff wind blows.
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03-07-2004, 07:52 PM #20
Yes BP does lower eventually after the leveling in the beginning of a cycle. I was wondering if in the beginning of a cycle, when the system reacts with the induced hormones and flush of testosterone , it causes the high BP, insomnia, anxiety, induced heart rhythm, etc.. maybe low dosages in the beginning would subside these reactions temporarly until the body adjusts and levels itself out. Although, I am not to keen on the headache after viagra. Thanks for the info here toolman.
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03-07-2004, 08:37 PM #21Originally Posted by toolman
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03-07-2004, 09:09 PM #22Anabolic Member
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This has come up many, MANY times. There are several posts floating around about this.
Sometimes we hear things repeated so often that they seem like fact, and other things seem like fact based on "common sense." However, not all that we read/hear repeatedly or believe is true. One of the most common mistakes is to believe that using moderate to high levels of testosterone during a cycle automatically means that you will have a high sex drive throughout the cycle (if you are male). This is an incorrect assumption.
Just because you're taking loads of testosterone , does not mean that you're going to have incredible erections, have a high sex drive, or experience sexual overstimulation. If you've read more than 5 posts on this board, you've probably come across the phrase, "steroids affect each person differently." This is a true statement that applies not only to the rate at which one grows on steroids or to the amount of side effects that one experiences, but also to the way your sex drive and your mental state are affected.
Although testosterone has been prescribed to help eliminate depression and erectile dysfunction (refer to articles and posts on HRT--Hormone Replacement Therapy), testosterone can cause depression and sexual dysfunction while using it. Testosterone can cause a man to experience a sharp increase in sex drive followed by a sharp decrease in sex drive, which may be lower than the sex drive he normally experiences while not taking testosterone.
Many men experience a high sex drive on certain steroids including testosterone. But, this doesn't happen to everyone. It doesn't mean your gear is fake or underdosed. It could mean that you're not eating enough (which will hinder the positive affects of the steroids). But, if you're doing everything correctly while cycling and still not getting the famed steel erections that won't quit, then it just means that you're one of the men that does not experience sexual overdrive while on certain steroids.
This seems to go against "common sense." But, if you stop and remember that STEROIDS AFFECT EVERYONE DIFFERENTLY, it'll be easier to accept that a person using moderate to high amounts of testosterone can lose his sex drive or, at least, experience a sharp decline in sex drive (ablity to hold an erection, etcetera).
Think about this: Does EVERYONE get deca dick while using deca? No. In fact, some guys get overstimulated while using deca at 400mg EW and testosterone at 400-500mg EW. Others using the same doses loose their ability to get and/or maintain an erection while on deca and testosterone.Last edited by BASK8KACE; 03-07-2004 at 09:16 PM.
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03-07-2004, 11:08 PM #23
I agree totally with bask8kace. My other question would be how far along are you in your cycle have the test esters kicked in yet? This could be an issue as well especially if you are taking anti-es when there is not yet any extra estrogen being produced.
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03-07-2004, 11:26 PM #24
Good post Bask8case....and I agree with others..high BP can cause problems keeping a hard willy.
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03-07-2004, 11:33 PM #25
My prostate acts up while on a cycle...it can cause me some bedroom problems when it is enlarged.
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