Good Cycle without Nolvadex?

**TryN2GetSwoll** · 03-09-2004, 08:02 PM

Of course I have the best gains with some kind of test involved in my cycle. But I dont like the water retention and possible gyno. Nolvadex gets expensive over long cycles and i was just wondering if any of yall have a good novice cycle i could use without nolvadex and not worry about gyno or severe water retention???

Thanks

***SV-1*** · 03-09-2004, 08:05 PM

Nolva = at the very least is CHEAP insurance.

**daem** · 03-09-2004, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by TryN2GetSwoll

Nolvadex gets expensive over long cycles

gyno surgery gets expensive over the regular course of anyones life.

$75 bucks every cycle for the nolva, or $2K + 8 weeks off training...hmmm, let me bust out the calculator for this.

**TryN2GetSwoll** · 03-09-2004, 08:09 PM

u are right about that... it does make since to use it just to make sure. but do u know of a mild cycle i maybe could put together and not worry about gyno and water retention?? maybe some winstrol and eq or something mild like that?? maybe some deca dura thrown in???

**palequail** · 03-09-2004, 08:10 PM

everyone is differnet...some get gyno and hold water and some don't..personally I don't take any Nolva because I don't need to as of right now....knock on wood..but I still have it

**BWhitaker** · 03-09-2004, 08:21 PM

im sorry, but a lot of reasons why people fail at the AS game is either they arent educated enough or they dont want to spend money on what they need. I think you fall into the latter. It is money well spent and fairly cheap considering. I know that you want to spend your money on things that get you big, but you need to make sure you not only keep them but dont get tits.

**palequail** · 03-09-2004, 08:29 PM

yeah why spend hundreds of dollars on gear and not get the stuff that will protect you when you need it most...you don't want tits do you??

**Humanimal** · 03-10-2004, 12:59 AM

Whether you use the nolvadex or not, you should always have it just in case, which means you'll end up spending the money anyways.

**TxJuiceFreak** · 03-10-2004, 09:24 AM

I'd rather spend the extra few bucks for the nolva, rather than bitch tits. See if you can find tomaxifen, its the same thing, but cheaper, atleast for me it is, i can get 100, 10mg pills for 20 bucks.