Clen/T-3: Advice sorely needed!

[getleanordietrying]

Stats:22 y.o. training-HIT for 6 years
weight-195
bf-around 28%
roid xperinece- did Fina last March 75 mg eod 6 weeks
Fina leaned me out a bit and strength SOARED!

Anyways I want a fat burner:
1.) ECA gives me MAJOR migraines even at low doses...Its out of the question
2.)Clen or T-3- Out of these, I want one that doesn't:
give me a nasty crash or that weird depression you get when you come down (although thats probably dependent on dosage)

Vets and Users help me out my training is progressing well but i HAVE TO eliminate this fat suit blocking my work !!!!!!! Thanks in advance 4 replies...

[Ammar]

Your body fat is 28%?????? Are you sure about that?

I dont think you really need any form of "fat burner" such as clen or t3 yet but if you are gonna use one get the clen first. T3 will make you lose muscle with the fat so you will need to run some test or some sort of AAS with it.

[getleanordietrying]

BTW im 5'8" yea probably like 25-28% bf
Thanks 4 the reply...
ANyways does clen give the harsh migraines and nasty crash u get with ECA, also i would like input from LR Liqu Clen users

[getleanordietrying]

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[scottninpo]

clen and eca feel completely different to me, on eca, it felt like i just drank a sh*tload of coffee, on clen, it makes you feel really hot and your heart rate increases, but different than on eca, you don't feel "up" like you do on eca

[getleanordietrying]

Thanks for the reply bro; do you crash hard when you come off the clen and has anyone tried LR's liqu clen???

[biG rOb]

with clen i always get headaches in the bigining, but it subsides after i have rampd up. or in like 3-5 days after starting.

[scottninpo]

Thanks for the reply bro; do you crash hard when you come off the clen and has anyone tried LR's liqu clen???

no, you don't crash like eca, and from what i've heard from friends, they're clen is awesome

[getleanordietrying]

anyone tried LR's liqu clen ???

[powerlifter]

I have used both - like ECA better as it gets me up - T3 gobbled up my muscle like there was no tomorrow until I ran some Test with it - Clen worked great but nearly died from Taurine depletion cramps 1 day at work. So if you run clen use Taurine 3- 5 grams ED and supplement with potassium at like 400mg ED as for LR liquid clen - haven't used it and they just got busted

[getleanordietrying]

as for LR liquid clen - haven't used it and they just got busted
NO ****!!

[getleanordietrying]

I want to use online liqui stuff b/c the Clen i can get is Mexican; comes in a bottle not blister packs; and that stuff is way weak

[Jjdigs74]

From what i hear, clen has worked great for my buddies...

[floyd_turbo]

cardio and diet, some good threads and logs on clen , t3, check out the educational threads, they'll help answer a lot of your questions

ft-

[Shortyrock13]

Id say get ur diet in order first, ur only 195, and over 40 pounds of that is fat.

[Ammar]

Yeah man my concern for you is that you are 5'8'' and 195lbs with 25-28% body fat...you should try to naturally bring your body fat down abit first I think. Like I said, I used clen before and I loved it. I used the tabs. Not the oxyflux though.

[getleanordietrying]

Fckin awesome replies..thanks 4 the help guys!
I really want the edge w/ clen on the fat though... I still gotta hit that cardio/diet
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