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    1st cycle

    this is my first cycle. ive done my research.

    1-12 ED nolvadex @20mg and proviron @50mg
    1-12 testoviron (250modays +250thursdays)
    12-21 clomid @ 300mg day1,100mg 2-11,50mg 12-21
    12-21 nolvadex @ 20mg

    ive some questions, is nolva and proviron a good combo to prevent gyno ?
    Expecting 15pounds.

    Opinions are welcome.

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    i did a test only cycle and took prov and novla all the way through, hampers your gains abit. but i still got great results and no sides apart from the odd spot. sounds good, but shouldn't you do 2 week on and 2 weeks off on clomid. good luck with the cycle bro.

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    shouldn't you do 2 week on and 2 weeks off on clomid. ???????????

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    no, your thinking about clen bro... thought you did your research...lol

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    1. switch the testiviron to enanthate @ 500mg/wk
    2. no need to run proviron with nolva
    nolva @ 10mg/ed and l-dex @ .25 mg/ed
    3. clomid should be ran wks 15-17 @ the doses you stated

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    Quote Originally Posted by tivoliboy74
    i did a test only cycle and took prov and novla all the way through, hampers your gains abit. but i still got great results and no sides apart from the odd spot. sounds good, but shouldn't you do 2 week on and 2 weeks off on clomid. good luck with the cycle bro.
    The myth that Nolva hinders Gains has been dispelled.....unless you're referring to titty gains, then yes, it hinders gains....
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    Quote Originally Posted by damiongage
    1. switch the testiviron to enanthate @ 500mg/wk
    2. no need to run proviron with nolva
    nolva @ 10mg/ed and l-dex @ .25 mg/ed
    3. clomid should be ran wks 15-17 @ the doses you stated
    I concur on the Testiviron, the Prop makes it unsuitable for a first time.
    But 20mg of Nolva will do him fine if he can't afford the L-Dex.
    Proviron...one of my favorite drugs, it does numerous things Nolva does not.
    I always run Nolva throughout, but I still run Proviron when I can......Woody's are insane, and that's only one of the benefits. I say if you can get it/afford it, run it.
    TSW

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    I remade my cycle...

    1-12 test enanthate @500,g/wk
    1-12 ED nolvadex @20mg and proviron @50mg
    15-17 clomid @ 300mg day1,100mg 15-16 ,16-17,50mg 12-21
    1-17 molva@20mg ed

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    Testoviron is TEST Enan.

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    testiviron 250= 200mg enanthate + 50mg Propinate. No sense in runing it unless you shoot eod at a min. Thats why I suggested straight enan.

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    is the pct ok ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by salu
    is the pct ok ?
    You need to start pct 2 weeks after enth not 3 wks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salu
    I remade my cycle...

    1-12 test enanthate @500,g/wk
    1-12 ED nolvadex @20mg and proviron @50mg
    15-17 clomid @ 300mg day1,100mg 15-16 ,16-17,50mg 12-21
    1-17 molva@20mg ed
    another thing , unless you are prone to gyno you can get away with 10mgs of nolv. instead of 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ616
    another thing , unless you are prone to gyno you can get away with 10mgs of nolv. instead of 20.
    make sure to run 20mgs for pct

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    ive no idea if im prone to gyno thats why im using proviron and nolva.... just hope not getting gyno

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    is hcg needed ?

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    shouldnt be...

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