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    4th cycle

    Okay guys this will be only my 4th cycle and I'm sure you have seen it before. I am 6 ft 225 - 230 depending on how big a **** I took that day. I am not concerned with strength, people say I bench small countries, but want to cut up even more.

    wk 1-10 75mg prop ed
    wk 1-8 75mg tren ed
    wk 4-10 50mg winny ed
    clen @ 60mg ed 2 wks on 2 wks off
    Pct clomid/hcg
    High pro/Low carb diet
    Cardio 30-45 min/day


    Does this look good or should I try something different?

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    up your prop to 100 everyday, always good to run a little more test so that you don't shut down. Also, i hope you meant 60mcg of clen a day and not mg, other than that i love this cycle cause i'm doin the exact same thing..........good luck bro, keep us updated

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    forgot to add that when you're off of clen for 2 weeks, run an eca stack to help with fat burning

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    The winny should be from weeks 5 - 10

    Bumping up the Prop to 100mg would be a good idea

    60mcg of clen after a few days might not work as well....... Everyone is different but I find I need to up my dosages

    When are you running the HCG? I hope not durring PCT because you will never recover if that's what your planning to do.

    You should run anti-e's durring your cycle anlong with 200mg of B6 to keep prolacting levels low.

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    You guys rally thing he needs 700mg of prop a week

    JohnnyB

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    I feel if he's not running something to help after the tren shuts him down like proviron then yes I would run a higher dosage of test.

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    You know me Bro I like lower doses it being his 4th cycle I guess I could see 700mg a week. I'll be doing my 4th cycle soon with 500mg of test a week and still haven't broke the gram a week plain yet.

    JohnnyB

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    You know me Bro I like lower doses it being his 4th cycle I guess I could see 700mg a week. I'll be doing my 4th cycle soon with 500mg of test a week and still haven't broke the gram a week plain yet.

    JohnnyB
    Yeah, I know you like the lower doses......... and I do as well but I feel sometimes it just makes more sence to run higher dosages in certain situations..... I don't think I will ever break a gram a week of test.

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    Thanks for the input. Yeah I meant 60mcg of clen. When should I take the HCG? I m not sure on the anti-e but looks like either l-dex or arimidex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big1
    Thanks for the input. Yeah I meant 60mcg of clen. When should I take the HCG? I m not sure on the anti-e but looks like either l-dex or arimidex.
    i dont think you need hcg...if it were 15 weeks or longer i would say use it, but for 10 weeks its not needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Yeah, I know you like the lower doses......... and I do as well but I feel sometimes it just makes more sence to run higher dosages in certain situations..... I don't think I will ever break a gram a week of test.


    JohnnyB

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    You can go 500iu e4d through the cycle if you decide to run it.

    JohnnyB

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