Should I end my first bulker cycle with Clen?

**LeafsFan** · 03-28-2004, 04:21 PM

I'm about to start my first cycle: Cyp and EQ.

I've heard it's good to end a bulking cycle with Clen so you can maintain a high calories intake without gaining too much fat.

Is this true?

**Johnny Boy** · 03-28-2004, 04:25 PM

Clen is an anti-catabolic so it helps preseve muscle mass when your body is in a catabolic state like when your cycle is finished.

**LeafsFan** · 03-28-2004, 04:31 PM

Any cons?

Why isn't this recommended after every cycle?

**LeafsFan** · 03-28-2004, 06:49 PM

bump?

**sin** · 03-28-2004, 08:34 PM

i think for your first cycle you should just stick with the test and eq, then add on more compounds later. that way you will know how your body is reacting and recovering to each of the compounds.

**LuvMuhRoids** · 03-28-2004, 08:39 PM

Yes clen is suggestable for a PCT therapy to help keep gains and use for keeping up the calorie intake. It has an anabolic affect and even used by non AS users for this purpose.

**barbarian** · 03-28-2004, 09:15 PM

its a good idea use it

**asiancuts** · 03-28-2004, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Johnny Boy

Clen is an anti-catabolic so it helps preseve muscle mass when your body is in a catabolic state like when your cycle is finished.

i remember hearing one of the mods, i forget which one, saying a couple of months ago that the anti-catabolic effects of clen were not very strong and that it would take an incredibly high dosage to use it as an actual anti-catabolic, but that it is still a great fat burner. just what i remember reading, thought i'd add it in.

**DoctaBig** · 03-28-2004, 10:12 PM

dumb question....can you drink winny??

j/k

i read the clen handbook, but im still curious about taking clen post cycle also. Should you follow the same general protocols for post cycle usage as non-cycling usage? and when should you start?? day one of clomid or day after first shot??

sorry if i stole your thread...my bad, but your probably interested anyway

**LeafsFan** · 03-29-2004, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by jurichar

dumb question....can you drink winny??

j/k

i read the clen handbook, but im still curious about taking clen post cycle also. Should you follow the same general protocols for post cycle usage as non-cycling usage? and when should you start?? day one of clomid or day after first shot??

sorry if i stole your thread...my bad, but your probably interested anyway

bump..I'm curious too

**DoctaBig** · 03-29-2004, 10:27 PM

what if we say please

**blanket** · 03-30-2004, 07:33 PM

bump, I wanna know too

**ADAWG** · 03-30-2004, 07:55 PM

sorry to jump in here but i have a question. ive also read the clen handbook but it doesnt adress one thing. if i take clen 30min before a workout will it have any stimulant effects? does it give you that same high energy that you get from ephedra or is more of a prolonged fat burning effect? just curious because i love my ephedra before a morning workout and want to know if clen will have the same effect. any help please

**DoctaBig** · 03-30-2004, 11:17 PM

i did a lil in depth research... maybe if i reccommend something i can get a critique:

what if a guy were to start clen on day one of clomid? that way the anti-catabolic properties will be on par with biggest trough in test levels. stay on for 18 days then your test levels should be much closer to norms...then start the 2weeks on/off set for X weeks?????? I see that clen can affect hunger and calorie expenditure so would this be an ok way to go. or should you wait until your last clomid tab to start the clen....****...i thought i had something for a minute.

i know there's some big dawgs reading this that really want to help us with this thread...dont b scaaaared