Nolvadex or Proviron

[SaTyR]

If money was not an issue , what would you choose against possible gyno symptons ? Nolvadex or Proviron , and please clearify why ? tnx

[TheSevnthWarrior]

Well, that's a tricky answer, they're different.
If money was "no issue" I would run them both.
Nolva is an ER Blocker, and Proviron is basically an Androgen (I think it's half Viagra if ya ask me!)
TSW

[SaTyR]

Come on ? No one has experience with proviron ?

[TheSevnthWarrior]

Come on ? No one has experience with proviron ?

Yeah Bro, but what is it that you want to know exactly??
Nolva is an ER Blocker, Proviron is an Estrogen Antagonist.
Nolva Blocks, where Proviron eliminates the aromatisation all together (theoretically)
Therfore, with Proviron, Gyno and Water retention never get a start, as where Nolva let's it start, then Blocks it.
Also, Proviron will give you a hard look if ran high enough (maybe 50mg ED), you won't get that effect from Nolva obviously.
Nolva has the "possibility" of rebounding somewhat, sincce it does allow aromitization to take place, where as Proviron does not.
This is the best I can do not knowing exactly what you want to know about the drugs...hope this helps.
TSW

[SaTyR]

Yeah Bro, but what is it that you want to know exactly??
Nolva is an ER Blocker, Proviron is an Estrogen Antagonist.
Nolva Blocks, where Proviron eliminates the aromatisation all together (theoretically)
Therfore, with Proviron, Gyno and Water retention never get a start, as where Nolva let's it start, then Blocks it.
Also, Proviron will give you a hard look if ran high enough (maybe 50mg ED), you won't get that effect from Nolva obviously.
Nolva has the "possibility" of rebounding somewhat, sincce it does allow aromitization to take place, where as Proviron does not.
This is the best I can do not knowing exactly what you want to know about the drugs...hope this helps.
TSW

Tnx for the info , i just wanted to know how is it that , bro's always talk about nolvadex in there cycle . But with proviron there is no chance you are gonna get gyno symptons . And its pretty cheap to . I thought that maybe there was a down side on it . Tnx for the reply's .

[einstein1905]

Tnx for the info , i just wanted to know how is it that , bro's always talk about nolvadex in there cycle . But with proviron there is no chance you are gonna get gyno symptons . And its pretty cheap to . I thought that maybe there was a down side on it . Tnx for the reply's .

Proviron, an alleged AI, doesn't completely prevent aromatization....neither do any of the other AIs at their therapeutic doses. They simply limit aromatization, with letro and exemestane being the most potent...who knows where proviron fits in. You can still get gyno while using an AI....your chances are just reduced. Using a SERM (like nolva) along side any AI is a good idea.

[BigBoy21]

Iam running both, and have not gained any water-weight, good combo IMO

[JohnDoe1234]

I like provirion. It prevents test from converting to estrogen whereas Nolva just blocks estrogen from binding to receptors. Because of that you have more test in your body at any given time if you use provirion. Also since it is an androgen, Provirion has the capacity to give your muscles that dense look and feel. It will also help keep lead in your "pencil" if you are running other compounds besides test.

[JohnDoe1234]

Oh man, I'll have to write that one down!

You like that one hunh .

[100571]

I think that Proviron can affect your lipids (cholesterol), but I'm not sure. Femara is what I would go with, but I think Proviron is better than Nolva. Everyone has their own personal preference. As long as you are taking SOME kind of anti-e, you should be set. Search through Phedno's old posts on anti-e. He knows all about the topic, and the info is out there to be found (I think it's one of my old threads).