Thinking of using prop to jump with test e

**BWhitaker** · 04-02-2004, 04:28 PM

Ok, so i know that some people on this board use prop at the beginning or end of a cycle that has a long ester like e or cyp. I plan on running my test enanthate @500 mg/wk for 12 weeks. I would like to possible run prop in the first 3-4 weeks of my cycle. What do you guys think of this, and secondly im having a hard time how to dose everything...can i get some help???

Thanks,
Backer123

**usualsuspect** · 04-02-2004, 04:33 PM

100mgs eod for 3 weeks should quickly get your cycle off to a good start.
By the way, is this your first cycle?

***JDMSilviaSpecR*** · 04-02-2004, 04:36 PM

Or 100mg ED

**BWhitaker** · 04-02-2004, 04:37 PM

Yes this will be my first cycle.

Now i will be using the enanthate along with the prop for the first 3 weeks so when i stop the prop the enanthate will be kicking in. Do i still want to use 100mg eod for 3 weeks and just lower the amount of test e so that i am not getting more than 500mg test in a week or what?

**Consistency** · 04-02-2004, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by JDMSilviaSpecR

Or 100mg ED

too much for a first cycle that will be 1,200mg for 4 weeks!

**Jjdigs74** · 04-02-2004, 04:38 PM

I am a firm beleiver in using Prop at the start of ones cycle. Prop enters the blood stream faster and in most cases kicks in within the first week or two.Comparred to Longer acting Test's like cyp or Test E, which with most people take an average of 3-4 weeks to kick in. I have to say I love Test Prop and once again, think its great in at the start of your cycle. Gives you a better jump start in the biggining. I'd run

1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
1- 4 Prop 75mg ED

My .02

**Consistency** · 04-02-2004, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by backer123

Yes this will be my first cycle.

Now i will be using the enanthate along with the prop for the first 3 weeks so when i stop the prop the enanthate will be kicking in. Do i still want to use 100mg eod for 3 weeks and just lower the amount of test e so that i am not getting more than 500mg test in a week or what?

no, keep your test e at 500mg and prop at 350mg

**Jjdigs74** · 04-02-2004, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by backer123

Yes this will be my first cycle.

Now i will be using the enanthate along with the prop for the first 3 weeks so when i stop the prop the enanthate will be kicking in. Do i still want to use 100mg eod for 3 weeks and just lower the amount of test e so that i am not getting more than 500mg test in a week or what?

Run the Prop @ 75mg ED and yes I would keep the Test E at 500mg/wk

**Da Bull** · 04-02-2004, 04:44 PM

I agree w/75 mgs ed of prop.

**BWhitaker** · 04-02-2004, 04:47 PM

i have had some people tell me to use 100mg eod for my first cycle and since i will also be using the test e.

**RUDY-14** · 04-02-2004, 06:56 PM

Isn't that still a little high for a fist cycle. 75 mg/ed and the enth adds up to over a gram a week of test! I know some bros that like to frontlaod their cycles but I thought most guys on this board felt it was outdated. Correct me if im wrong.
Also I definetely understand the idea behind using prop as a kickstart...it would be great. My only concern is with the dosages. JMHO

**Kingkasino** · 04-02-2004, 06:59 PM

Isn't that still a little high for a fist cycle. 75 mg/ed and the enth adds up to over a gram a week of test! I know some bros that like to frontlaod their cycles but I thought most guys on this board felt it was outdated. Correct me if im wrong.
Also I definetely understand the idea behind using prop as a kickstart...it would be great. My only concern is with the dosages. JMHO

I agree with that. A gram of test per week for a first cycle is asking for trouble.

KK

**BWhitaker** · 04-02-2004, 07:16 PM

so then what should it be

**sepjuice** · 04-02-2004, 07:21 PM

doing the same thing right now, used bd 100mg prop to kick it off. im currently doing 100mg eod.its a good idea, personally i like using prop instead of dbols to kick off a cycle..

**RUDY-14** · 04-02-2004, 07:26 PM

Backer123:
If i were you I would simply run the test e for 12 weeks @ 500mg/week. Can't go wrong bro, its a simple, one compound cylce. If you really want that kickstart then personally i would use dbolls just because as i stated before....over a gram a week of test for a first time user would be to heavy IMO.

**BWhitaker** · 04-02-2004, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by sepjuice

doing the same thing right now, used bd 100mg prop to kick it off. im currently doing 100mg eod.its a good idea, personally i like using prop instead of dbols to kick off a cycle..

are you gettin good results at only 100mg eod

**magicstick2003** · 04-02-2004, 08:58 PM

if you want to run the prop along with the enanth just drop the enath down a little and do the 350 of prop a week (100 EOD) and take maybe .5-.75 cc of the enanth (E4D).. it will still get in your system and you can then bump it up once the prop is over....that way your total test won;t be outrageous... (i think this would work at least.. i mean it sounds logical to me, but if anyone else knows differently please comment)

**RUDY-14** · 04-02-2004, 10:23 PM

bump...im curious if that is a good idea too Magicstick

**JDogg** · 04-03-2004, 10:15 AM

yeah lets up this, since I am contemplating the same thing

**usualsuspect** · 04-03-2004, 10:33 AM

75mgs ed or 100mgs eod. Whatever you prefer. I recommended eod since its your first cycle. Everyday shoots can be rough for your first time.

**BWhitaker** · 04-03-2004, 01:45 PM

one more bump to see what people say on magicsticks comment

**floyd_turbo** · 04-03-2004, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by usualsuspect

75mgs ed or 100mgs eod. Whatever you prefer. I recommended eod since its your first cycle. Everyday shoots can be rough for your first time.

i agree with suspect

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 04-04-2004, 02:29 AM

Ok... so if your running something like this:
Weeks 1-13 Test E. 500mg/week
Weeks 1-12 Deca 400mg/week
Weeks 10-15 Winstrol 50mg/ED
Weeks 1-14 Nolvadex 10mg/ED
15-18 Nolvadex 20mg/ED
Weeks 1-15 L-dex .25mg/ED
Weeks 15-18 Clomid: Day 1 300mg, Day 2-11 100mg/ED, Day 12-21 50mg/ED
Weeks 1-18 B6 200mg/ED
Is jump starting it still ok? I mean can you go ahead and use the prop still or is that just too much sh1t? (rather just use extra Test E but I don't know if that is ok)

**usualsuspect** · 04-07-2004, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH

Ok... so if your running something like this:
Weeks 1-13 Test E. 500mg/week
Weeks 1-12 Deca 400mg/week
Weeks 10-15 Winstrol 50mg/ED
Weeks 1-14 Nolvadex 10mg/ED
15-18 Nolvadex 20mg/ED
Weeks 1-15 L-dex .25mg/ED
Weeks 15-18 Clomid: Day 1 300mg, Day 2-11 100mg/ED, Day 12-21 50mg/ED
Weeks 1-18 B6 200mg/ED
Is jump starting it still ok? I mean can you go ahead and use the prop still or is that just too much sh1t? (rather just use extra Test E but I don't know if that is ok)

Start your own thread if your not sure.

**gripex** · 04-07-2004, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Consistency

too much for a first cycle that will be 1,200mg for 4 weeks!

1400 Posts and you arent familar with esters? WOW.

**gripex** · 04-07-2004, 10:09 AM

Im kickstarting with prop as well. This is my first cycle. Im running for the first 4 weeks (or until i feel the test E kicking in) 2cc Prop EOD (yes, 700mg a week) some said it was gunna be too much, bah, it ****ing rocks, 1cc ENth, 1cc EQ every 3 days. So basicly for the first 4 weeks im shooting 700mg Prop a week, 585 Test E a week, and about 470mg eq a week. That sounds like ALOT OF TEST. its not. its roughly 700 a week for the first 4 weeks. Prop clears your system so fast that when you start to feel the test E kick in, you simply stop the prop. Sure you might have 2-3 days with a little OVERLAP but who cares. you're not gunna die. At first i was all confused about this as well but if you think about it, just cause you are injecting TEST E doesnt mean you body is using it or seeing it. It takes about 4 weeks (depends on the individual) for test E to kick in. Hope this helps.