1st cycle--check it

[futurefitnessmodel]

Hey everyone...new member here from the Bodybuilding.com forums. I've been on there for a few years but was recommended to this board. I have been lifting for 5 years seriously, cardio and a good diet. I have used some PH's before this and am pretty educated about what I want to do.

I will be starting my first cycle soon...I am 5'11", 188-190...about 11-12% bf. My goal is to add lean muscle mass and cut up down to 9% bf or so.

My plan

weeks 1-8 prop 100mg eod
weeks 1-6 var 60mg ed
weeks 1-4 dbol 20mg ed

obviously, clomid and nolva pct and so on.

my question...what are ur opinions about maybe interchanging either the var/dbol with winny, or even adding clen?

peace out

[razor67]

personally id drop the dbol and run the var the 8 weeks

[KINGKONG]

drop the dbol and why such a short cycle? I find I just get in my groove about 6 weeks
in

[sepjuice]

drop the dbol for sure,dont need to kickstart t prop. and def clen and probably a eca stack will work well with this cycle.

[futurefitnessmodel]

Might change it up to something like this....

Prop 100 mg EOD (1-12)
Deca 300mg EW (1-12)
Sust 500mg EW (1-10)
Winny 50mg EOD (1-6)
Clomid: 300/100/50--3 weeks post cycle

[futurefitnessmodel]

Just to make sure Im clear, I want to cut up more and gain lean body mass...any thought about fina ? BTW, that last post was a friend screwing around while i was upstairs..peace

[razor67]

Might change it up to something like this....

Prop 100 mg EOD (1-12)
Deca 300mg EW (1-12)
Sust 500mg EW (1-10)
Winny 50mg EOD (1-6)
Clomid: 300/100/50--3 weeks post cycle

how bout this..drop the deca..

eq 1-12 400mg ew
enanthate 1-13 500mg ew
prop 100mg ed/eod 1-4
winny 10-15 50mg ed

pct starts day after winny

[Da Bull]

Just to make sure Im clear, I want to cut up more and gain lean body mass...any thought about fina ? BTW, that last post was a friend screwing around while i was upstairs..peace

If this is your first cycle,I'd leave the fina out.I'd run the prop @75 mgs ed for 8 wks,and the var @ 40 mgs ed for 8 wks.That will be enough.

[razor67]

lol...never mind...first cycle...

[whiteyk]

id really like to do that cycle, prop and var would be awesome, var is very expensive for me. make sure you got your PCT ready and some nolvadex just in case. good luck bro looks good

[futurefitnessmodel]

Could I switch the Prop w/ Enanth and add in winny for the 6 weeks at 50mg ED? Thanks for the input

[whiteyk]

yea...but then your end results would be different then your prop var cycle.

[futurefitnessmodel]

1-13 Test Enanthate 500mg EW
1-12 EQ 400mg EW
8-13 Winny 50mg ED

I've changed things around to better suit my goals and the fact it is my first cycle...Thanks for the help! Any final comments?

[razor67]

since its your first cycle, wouldnt run that much gear...but if your gonna then run the winny 10-15

[Da Bull]

1-13 Test Enanthate 500mg EW
1-12 EQ 400mg EW
8-13 Winny 50mg ED

I've changed things around to better suit my goals and the fact it is my first cycle...Thanks for the help! Any final comments?

Go wk 10-15 on the winny.This way you can start pct the day after last winny dose.

Run Nolv @ 10 mgs ed through cycle and 20 mgs at pct.l-dex @ .25 mgs ed throughout entire cycle.Clomid will start the day after last winny dose.

[whiteyk]

since its your first cycle, wouldnt run that much gear...but if your gonna then run the winny 10-15

i think thats a good cycle, except where he put the winny in. also start PCT the day after last dose winstrol

[futurefitnessmodel]

razor...did u mean not that much in terms of amounts, diff. aas, or weeks? Thanks man.

[razor67]

the different gear...
imo, test only is fine for a first..