newbies cycle help

**gotenks** · 02-03-2002, 05:19 PM

ok guys need a bit of advice here
me bros on
deca
just starting 4th week now

doses have been 250,300,350,400

no i was wondering is it too late for him to start test cyp

originally he was gonna do deca for 8 weeks
but wants to change to
weeks 1-12 deca

then at 6-12 weeks starting some test cyp going upto 300

then to finish off use a winny primo stack
at weeks 7-13

would this work out ok ?

**PaPaPumP** · 02-03-2002, 06:17 PM

It would be fine. So "your friend" going to be running deca ,cyp,winny,and primo. . .what are the doses of the primo and winny "your friend" will be taking?

**gregster** · 02-03-2002, 06:26 PM

You wont gain much from deca alone at those doses, maybe test prop or dbol for the first 4 weeks would have been useful along with the deca.

The cyp is Long acting steroid should be run earlier on in the course.

You should finish with short acting steriods , the winny is fine but the primo should come in a bit sooner.

This is only my view but i reckon it's better than the way you suggested.

**gotenks** · 02-03-2002, 06:34 PM

seriously its me bro man
anyway here is what hes lookin at
WEEK-----DECA -----CYP-------PRIMO-----WINNY

1 250
2 300
3 350
4 450
5 500
6 500--------200
7 450--------250
8 350====250
9 300--------300
10 200--------250---------200-------100
11 -------------250---------200--------150
12 -------------200---------300--------200
13 --------------------------300--------200
14 --------------------------200--------150
15 --------------------------100--------100
hes at around 12st 7lbs
hes looking to hit 13 ripped
is this cool or is there a better way ?
thanks

**gregster** · 02-03-2002, 06:43 PM

the 100mg of primo wont do too much, but it wont do any harm i guess.

Bring the cyp asap!!!

When you come to running the winny use 50mg eod at least.

Also the 15 week course is way too long for my liking!!!!

7lbs in such along course is'nt a lot by any standards so i dont think it'll be a problem, providing a good training routine and diet are adhered to.

-Good luck

**Whiteyebrowe** · 02-03-2002, 07:24 PM

get on the cyp. now

**gotenks** · 02-04-2002, 04:59 AM

1. ok so the cyp soon as he can yeah so that would cut the cycle into a 14 week cycle
about the primo should the doseage be raised and when u say earleir u mean start at around week 8 maybe ?
then leave winny where it is ?

**gregster** · 02-04-2002, 11:44 AM

I'd say bring in the primo at week 8 and finish it week 13 bro. You should put the dosages of primo shown up, maybe 100mg each.

After such a long course a longer acting steroids at the end would not be suitable.

After the course you should begin treatment with hcg , clomid and tribulis wouldnt go a stray either.