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09-18-2001, 03:21 PM #41Member
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hopefully the dust has settled now. as i mentioned before I was never aiming to diss everyone, just trying to gather as many opinions as possible and to iron out and conflicting ideas i heard from different places. any disrespect picked up was truely not meant.
when you say the gains are minimal - do you mean like 1kg minimal or like 5kg minimal? I will be very happy with 5kg good muscle. also, does it make a difference if i am first time user? i have heard that first time you usually grow fairly well, and thus you do not have to hit the harder gear yet.
i was thinking of d-bol tablets (sold here as anabol) but the side effects on both the liver and skin are way too hectic. same with sus. winny i heard was great but I know it is terrible from the liver. that's why i am looking for something low to fairly strong with minimal side effects, as mentioned by AlexG. is there anything else with little effects on skin/liver like prima/deca , which may be slightly more anabolic ?
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09-18-2001, 04:07 PM #42Mike Guest
Here's two suggestions:
Deca /Winny
Deca 400-600
wks 1-10
Winny 25mg/day
wks 5-10
Winny being only 25mg/day and 5wks in duration is a very minor winny cycle that would be relatively well tolerated by your liver - and risks may be eleviated in part by adding milk thistle at 800mgs/day starting 10days before winny and ending 10days after
Also - this cycle negates a need for nolv
Suggestion 2:
EQ/Deca
Deca 400-600mg
EQ 400-600mg
wks 1-10
If concerned about gyno add liquidex into cycle.
Clomid post cycle.
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