HCG vs Clomid for PCT

[Senior_FKG]

I just started my cycle, now i have my nolva, i got a lot for almost nothing....and i was gonna get clomid, but my "friend" was tellin me that he might not be able to get me clomid, but he will get HCG....he said its better but of course he is gonna say that, he is the supplier...so what do u guys thing, is HCG good for a PCT plan..thanks bros

[TRE]

hcg will not work for pct, you need clomid, get it from a research site.

[nsa]

HCG can be used during a cycle to keep your nuts in check, but you need clomid for pct.

[dirtdawg]

you only need hcg for long cycles

[sp9]

you only need hcg for long cycles

What? Please explain in more detail. Do you mean you don't need clomid for long cylces, since that was the original question.? Especially in light of your comments here: http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=102326

I use clomid and Nolva, usually keep using nolva a couple weeks past clomid therapy.

[TRE]

HCG is an instant jumpstart to your balls to get them back too normal size, However you need clomid to bring your hpta back to normal after a cycle.

[Senior_FKG]

what would be a good research site to buy clomid off of...pm me if you want to speak personally

[TRE]

Ill shoot you a pm

[Russ616]

HCG is an instant jumpstart to your balls to get them back too normal size, However you need clomid to bring your hpta back to normal after a cycle.

Agreed.... need clomid. I don't ever use hcg. I use trib to keep the nutties in check...

[dirtdawg]

What? Please explain in more detail. Do you mean you don't need clomid for long cylces, since that was the original question.? Especially in light of your comments here: http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=102326

I use clomid and Nolva, usually keep using nolva a couple weeks past clomid therapy.

same with me i use nolva and clomid and run nolva 2 weeks longer than clomid,i was at work and didnt finish what i had to say

[JohnnyB]

Nolva's better then clomid

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

Hormonal effects of an antiestrogen, tamoxifen, in normal and oligospermic men.

Vermeulen A, Comhaire F.

The administration of tamoxifen, 20 mg/day for 10 days, to normal males produced a moderate increase in luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, and estradiol levels, comparable to the effect of 150 mg of clomiphene citrate (Clomid). However, whereas Clomid produced a decrease in the LH response to LH-releasing hormone (LHRH), no such effect was seen after the administration of tamoxifen. In fact, prolonged treatment (6 weeks) with tamoxifen significantly increased the LH response to LHRL. Treatment of patients with "idiopathic" oligospermia for 6 to 9 months resulted in a significant increase in gonadotropin, testosterone, and estradiol levels. A significant increase in sperm density was observed only in subjects with oligospermia below 20 X 10(6)/ml and normal basal FSH levels. When basal FSH levels were increased or oligospermia was moderate (greater than 20 X 10(6)/ml); no effect on sperm density was seen. As sperm density increased, FSH levels decreased, suggesting an inhibin effect. Sperm motility was not improved by tamoxifen treatment. In five boys with delayed puberty, tamoxifen treatment appeared to activate the pituitary-gonadal axis and pubertal development.

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

Clomid doesn't block estrogen as well either that's why your emotions get like a 13 year old on her period

JohnnyB