thinking about trying

[dfire]

Well I have about 40lbs to loose and a great couple of guys to train with, I like the training but I would like to kick it up a notch or two and I am thinking about trying Winstrol. Any Advice?

[map200uk]

winstrol isnt what you need mate , poor choice there, winstrol hardens.

If you really must use something look into Clen/T3/ECA

[UrbanLegend]

Don't. Since you have that much weight to loose, there is no need for AAS, you won't loose much muslce in the dieting proccess. Good diet, training and some supplements from www.allsportsnutrition.com are your best bet.

[itsallmental]

i quit.

[DARKSEID]

i quit.

already?

[itsallmental]

already?

[dfire]

So there isn't and anabolic out there to help me get where I want to be?

[UrbanLegend]

So there isn't and anabolic out there to help me get where I want to be?

If you are looking for quick fixes, anabolics aren't for you. Thats what MuscleTech products are for

[DARKSEID]

So there isn't and anabolic out there to help me get where I want to be?

there are drugs that help but what people are trying to get at is that most people are too quick to jump on something before reworking there diet and cardio to lose weight

[GeoQuadzilla]

hahaha i just skimmed over the title and i read what this thread had to say and I had to laugh

[dfire]

I see, well I started a few months ago, stepping up my cardio and weight training by quite a bit, I changed my diet about six weeks ago, the initial weight came off, now I'm not sure 40 is what I really need to loose that is just what I said at the start but as I have lost fat I have seen that my shoulders are alot bigger than I had though. I will have some pics in the next few days of what I look like now, maybe if one of you could take a look and tell me what you think. I mean just have this **** gut that won't go away

[GeoQuadzilla]

You should look around the diet section and post your goals there... You'd find a lot more helpful advice for your particular situation.

[animal-inside]

Best advice your going to get

1)go to the DIET forum.. make yourself a diet and get someone to check it out for ya.

2)go to the SUPPLEMENT forum and check out what supps will help you

3) go to the EXERCISE forum.. get a work out outline and a cardio plan

4)come to the STERIOD forum AFTER you lose your weight.

[Azer]

If you are looking for quick fixes, anabolics aren't for you. Thats what MuscleTech products are for

Muscle tech products put 15 pounds on me in two weeks... Top of the line products.

[Steroids101]

Muscle tech products put 15 pounds on me in two weeks... Top of the line products.

Muscle tech products are a bunch of ****. Its just cheap **** thrown together and sold for a lot. You can make your own **** "cell-tech" by mixing dextrose (under 1 dollar a pound) with Creatine (under $30 a kilo), add ala and bam you got cell-tech. you can do this with every product they make.


Look man, if you need to lost a lot of fat, you would be better of dieting down for a while before taking aas. If you already have your diet and motivation down, then I say go for a prop/clen/t3 type cycle. Good luck with the diet bro!