Please critique second cycle...

[kronik]

Wellthis will be my 2nd cycle, but I want start until December. I was just wanting to get ahead start. I am not looking for huge mass,just good lean gains. Diet and cardio are in check.

Weeks 1-4 Test Prop 50mg ED or Dbol at 30mg ED
Weeks 1-15 Test E 500mg E3.5D-E4D
Weeks 1-14 EQ 400mg E4D
Weeks 12-17 Winny 50mg ED(if BF% is below 10%)
Nolva at 10mg ED and L-dex .25mg ED throughout cycle, increase Nolva to 20mg ED during PCT.
Weeks 17-21 PCT Clomid, nolva,L-dex
All usual supps throughout cycle and PCT.

Is HCG needed for this cycle?

Any thoughts would be helpful.. I am in the process of coming up with a second option cycle just in case, I will post it later.

My current cycle:

Weeks 1-12 Test E 400mg E4D
Weeks 10-14 Winny 50mg ED(?)
ECA Stack weeks 7-who knows
Weeks 1-14 Nolva 10mg ED
Weeks 15-18 Nolva 20mg ED
Weeks 15-18 Clomid 300/100/50
Trib, Milk Thistle, Saw Palmetto, multi-vit ED of my life


Thanks for the help bros...

[Da Bull]

I'd go every 3.5 days on the Test,it does make a difference if you do the math.I'd also go 12-17 on winny,if you decide too,so pct will start day after last dose.Other than that,it looks good.

[kronik]

I'd go every 3.5 days on the Test,it does make a difference if you do the math.I'd also go 12-17 on winny,if you decide too,so pct will start day after last dose.Other than that,it looks good.

I fixed(the finger math on the winny didn't work to well) it but it is just real hard for me to do and keep a E3.5D rotation, I hate to shoot at work...

[kronik]

Is the HCG needed?

[Da Bull]

I fixed(the finger math on the winny didn't work to well) it but it is just real hard for me to do and keep a E3.5D rotation, I hate to shoot at work...

I understand what you're saying about work.try to pick a 3.5 day schedule that you can shoot in the morning one day,and in the evening for your second shot of the week.

[Da Bull]

Is the HCG needed?

IMO,HCG isn't needed for that cycle.Eq is a mild drug.But see how well you recover from your first cycle,then determine whether you feel it's needed.

[JohnnyB]

Only add 1 drug to your second cycle

JohnnyB

[kronik]

IMO,HCG isn't needed for that cycle.Eq is a mild drug.But see how well you recover from your first cycle,then determine whether you feel it's needed.

Will do, thanks bro...Using 3g Trib ED right know my boys shrunk to about half but seem to coming back during cyle(strange)

[kronik]

Only add 1 drug to your second cycle

JohnnyB

Well i'm considering the prop and test e to be the same and If I use the winny at the end of my current cycle, I will be only adding EQ..IMO but I could be looking at it all wrong. What do ya'll think? Like I said any help is appreciated..

[Da Bull]

Well i'm considering the prop and test e to be the same and If I use the winny at the end of my current cycle, I will be only adding EQ..IMO but I could be looking at it all wrong. What do ya'll think? Like I said any help is appreciated..

I agree with your logic.You already now what the sides are for Test.And you will shortly for winny as well.So I don't see any problem with it.It's a rather mild cycle as far as drugs go,so I think you're good to go on this.

[kronik]

Only add 1 drug to your second cycle

JohnnyB

I think I figured out what you were saying...The dbol is pretty much out of the equation, I really dont want the water retention from it.