First Cycle - Prop & Cyp

[hardgainer1]

Any comments on this potential first cycle - I am missing some details that will DEFINITELY be filled in meticulously before I begin. I will do NOTHING without extensive lookups, research, and certainty on everything

8 week cycle
weeks 1-8 test Propianate 50 mg EOD
weeks 3-8 begin Proviron
weeks 3-8 test cypianate about 300-400 mg per week (not sure how we are gonna divide that up yet)
End with clomid therapy 3 weeks after last shot.

I may bump the MGs up half way through

[map200uk]

hey mate, cyp takes AGES to kick in, 3-8 for the cyp isnt long enough really

[detroit]

Bro skip the Cyp all together, its not going to do much in the 5 wks your running it. Prop at 50mg EOD?? How about 100mg EOD and your proviron is good but run it wks 1-8. With Prop only start your PCT 4-7days after your last prop shot.

[w_rballs]

take it like this
1-4 prop 75mg/ed
1-10 cyp 400mg/week

[fitnessNY]

take it like this
1-4 prop 75mg/ed
1-10 cyp 400mg/week

Yup, I was going to say the same thing. This is a good suggestion for your cycle

[dieseL atC]

Any comments on this potential first cycle - I am missing some details that will DEFINITELY be filled in meticulously before I begin. I will do NOTHING without extensive lookups, research, and certainty on everything

8 week cycle
weeks 1-8 test Propianate 50 mg EOD
weeks 3-8 begin Proviron
weeks 3-8 test cypianate about 300-400 mg per week (not sure how we are gonna divide that up yet)
End with clomid therapy 3 weeks after last shot.

I may bump the MGs up half way through

I think that cycle is very poorly planned. I would drop the Cyp and up the Prop dose. Here's what I suggest:

Week 1-8: Prop @ 125mg EOD
Week 1-8: Proviron @ 50mg ED
Week 1-8: Nolvadex @ 10mg ED
Week 9-11: Nolvadex @ 20mg ED
Week 9-11: Clomid @ 100mg ED

[map200uk]

what diesel and rballs would work well, but remember for a 'newbie' the prop means a lot of shots

[dieseL atC]

EOD is nothing - glutes, quads, delts and it's all good.

[hardgainer1]

yeah im gonna be a pin cushion!

[dirtdawg]

yeah im gonna be a pin cushion!

if you dont want that, run cyp or enth, and do you have enough for 10-12 weeks,if you do why not do that?

[hardgainer1]

its not that i dont want it, i have no idea what its like, never done it before, i can just imagine that its a pain in the ass (pun intended) jabbing yourself that frequently.

[dirtdawg]

its not that i dont want it, i have no idea what its like, never done it before, i can just imagine that its a pain in the ass (pun intended) jabbing yourself that frequently.

thats why i suggest 10-12 weeks of enth 500mgs ew, two shots ew, its alot easier, especially if you cant shoot with both hands

[hardgainer1]

Should I run Proviron for the DURATION of the cycle? I was just reading some Gyno posts and thought it might be a good thing.

Also, why run Proviron AND Nolva?

[RussianVodka]

You have to run cyp for 10 weeks at list.

[scotttiger54]

thats why i suggest 10-12 weeks of enth 500mgs ew, two shots ew, its alot easier, especially if you cant shoot with both hands

exactly dirtdawg.
run it like this:
wks 1-12: 500mg/ew
wks 1- pct: 10mg/ed of nolva
wks 14-17: clomid therapy (300/100/50)

this would set you up for some good, keepable gains.