Bold acetate,next best thing...

[shalke]

I was planing on this for my next short/mid cycle:

D-bol 30mg/d 1-3 weeks
boldenone acetate 100mg/EOD 1-6 weeks
var 50mg/d 1-6 weeks (maybe 8 weeks)

looking for some lean hard & veiny mass, nothing to big.
the d-bol is to jumpstart some gains.
the bold to keep this gains lean, more vascular and raise my appetite.
and var just for beeing var. tried some low dose var before and got real hard
with good strength gains and a bit of mass.


the prob is i just find out the price i was getting my bold ace for
as tripled!
so i need a fast acting substitute for it ....
Tren is to androgenic for my blood, i get baaad acne!
masteron wont give any gains.
test prop isnt my goal, not looking for big mass with water.
so i guess im left with nandrolone pp, unless you got
other proposal.
how do you think changing the BA to NPP will effect this cycle?
would i hold much water like with deca? would i get better mass?
waiting to ear your advice or experience with this....

[map200uk]

youd get more mass with deca but you said thats not what you want

what about

test prop (although u said u didnt want it, it retains the least water of the tests), var/winny

btw as a rule i wouldnt do 2 17aa orals in one cycle

[shalke]

i wouldnt mind getting more mass by using NPP,
just as long as i could stay dry.

im not worried about the 17aa.
the d-bol is only 30mg for 3 weeks and the
var is pretty merciful on the liver.
i dont want to use winny because i hate getting the pain in the joints
while trying to lift heavy.

[shalke]

bump for more info from ppl who used nandrolone pp

[LAWNSAVER]

Go with the nandralone PP and add some b6. You should be fine!

[shalke]

thanks bro, what is the b6 for?

[w_rballs]

helps prevent progesterone gyno.

[monstercojones]

i like lawnsaver's suggestiong... npp with b6. but imo you're going to neeeed test, especially with a naladrolone compound. it will shut you down and youre going to need an androgen (test!!!) in there to keep yourself functioning normally without getting depressed.

as for dry gains, dbol will not give you 'dry gains' in fact, dbol is notorious for being mostly water weight.

1-8 40 mgs var ed
1-9 75 mgs test prop ed
1-8 50 mgs npp ed

200 mgs b6 ed, with 10 mgs nolva ed or ldex and you should put on lean, hard mass without an ounce of water weight on that cycle.

you're definately going to need some test in there bro... is anyone else with me on this?