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    Time to GET BIG and HARD!!! Third cyle critique please

    Ok bros, I am currently in the second week of my third cycle and I wanted to see what you guys think of it. My goals are to increase strength, gain vascularity, harden up, and add about 20 pounds of lean quality muscle. Any suggestions?

    wks 1-15 test prop 100mg EOD
    wks 1-12 EQ 500mg/week
    wks 1-8 tren 100mg EOD
    wks 9-15 winny 50mg ED

    PCT three days after last prop injection
    clomid 300/100/50
    nolva 10mg ED

    I might throw it some l-dex if I see the need to, but I don't think I will need to. I have nolva on hand too just in case, but I won't start that unless I need to also. I have did two previous cycles without nolva and everything went fine. How does the cycle look? Should I make any adjustments? Thanks bros.
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    looks like you did your HW to me bro. good job, happy growing, oh yeah i would keep the test higher than the EQ.
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    i am also going to be doing tren in my next cycle. i was thinking of going 50mg ed. i know you are only in your second week but how do you like it eod?

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    tren(acetate) and prop should be run ed for best results and take 200mgs of b-6 daily with the tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
    tren(acetate) and prop should be run ed for best results

    plus you start clomind 2 or 3 days after last shot big guy. other than that....WATCH OUT fukka is sabout to get big! peace

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    Well, I use tren for my previous cycle at EOD also and I got great results from it. Some people would tend to disagree and say that it should be shot ED for best results, but I was very pleased with the results I got from EOD injections of tren and prop for my previous cycle. Got hard as hell and gained a good amount of lean muscle. That is why I decided to go EOD instead of ED with the tren. Maybe my next cycle after this one I will try it ED to see if it makes a big difference.

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    Yah I met 3 days after last prop injection. Don't know why I wrote 1 day. I'll edit that lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    Well, I use tren for my previous cycle at EOD also and I got great results from it. Some people would tend to disagree and say that it should be shot ED for best results, but I was very pleased with the results I got from EOD injections of tren and prop for my previous cycle. Got hard as hell and gained a good amount of lean muscle. That is why I decided to go EOD instead of ED with the tren. Maybe my next cycle after this one I will try it ED to see if it makes a big difference.
    the biggest reason for running prop every day is to keep your test levels stabilized

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
    the biggest reason for running prop every day is to keep your test levels stabilized
    EXACTLY huge gain differences also... i am on prop now, i was being a pussy and shooting it eod and then i cowboyed the fukk up and shot ed.. i will never shoot eod anymore.. pointless imo.. besides ed shots arent that bad, less side and better gains.. cant beat it-

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
    tren(acetate) and prop should be run ed for best results and take 200mgs of b-6 daily with the tren
    not necesarily for prop. if you are going for lean mass and cutting purposes on prop and not just bulk then 100mg eod is better than ed.

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    b6 will also help with "tren" gyno 200mg eveyday.

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    your test also needs to be 100mg more than your eq a week. maybe throw in some test e.

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    thats Beautiful!! That will be my next cycle.... exactly!!

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    id throw in sum sustanon 250 as teh water retention is a bit lower than with enanthate or cypionate

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    Time to GET BIG and HARD!!!
    heh heh heh you said hard...

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    I am just finishing up a cycle like yours, my suggestion is to do
    wks 1-15 prop 100 ED
    wks 1-10 tren 75 ED
    wks 1-12 EQ 250 2wkly, ( I used 600mg and the hunger pains kicked my ass)
    wks 10-15 winny 50mg ed

    run nolva and clomid how you have it....

    you might also want to think about some clen 2wks on 2wks off.

    Good luck.

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    You think of some proviron in there for getting cut/hard and to combat estrogen?

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