4 months of test and deca

[bermich]

Think 16 weeks of test E and 13 weeks of deca is too long for a 3 or 4th cycle??? Maybe some winny afterwards??

[GetinBig]

I don't think so i just did a 13wk of test E and a 12wk of Deca. Good run for me.


How much are you takin?

[Jackman]

never used deca but doing 16 weeks of test e 15 of eq and 12 of tren and its my 3rd cycle.

[Mesomorphyl]

hey, do the winny at the tail end of deca and finish the cycle with it. 12-18 then pct.

[bermich]

So take Winny while taking Test E?

1-16 Test E or C at 500-750 mgs
1-13 Deca 400 mgs
12-16. Winny ?????

[BigGenes]

So take Winny while taking Test E?

1-16 Test E or C at 500-750 mgs
1-13 Deca 400 mgs
12-16. Winny ?????

I am doing(minus the deca) this and I can't wait. But maybe its not for you. I would run it like this:
test-e 1-12wks at 750mg(I am at 500mg but I have really fresh receptors)
winnie 50mg ED 8-16wk
primo at 400mg ew 8-16

I will be at 350mg primo EW and I will run the winnie and primoto 17weeks. HCG is a good call on a cycle like this, just to be safe. I also am running nolva throughout. Some my hate on primo and winnie together, but those that do haven't seen what that combo really dose.

[Jackman]

more like winny 14-18 to match the half lives

[Anhydro78]

Make sure you HCG through out your cycle.

[bermich]

Hcg?

[TheChosenOne]

I dont think its too long either. I did 15 weeks of TE for my 2nd cycle. I personally like longer cycles though of 14-18 weeks just because I feel thats about the best way for me to maximize my gains. I dont gain quickly so anything much shorter just doesnt produce optimal results.

[Anhydro78]

Do you not know what it is or are you asking why??

With a cycle that long (4 months) you will want to use HCG to prevent atrophy to your testicals. It is really needed with longer cycles. It helps you recover faster and keeps your boys from shriveling up..

At week 6 start 500ius of HCG twice a week every other week untill about 1-2 weeks before PCT.

[50%Natural]

looks fine to me...

[Anhydro78]

Why would people hate on winny and Primo together Big Genes?? Im just asking, I have a sh!t load of zambons for my next cycle and was considering Primobolan $$$ instead of Deca or Equipoise for my next cycle with HGH and IGF-1 long R3 . The Next one is gonna be a long one trying to get to 300lbs and was wanting to finally use all these milder drugs instead of all these with higher side effects. Im thinkg of doing Anavar instead of D-bol as well. But I dont know if Ill be able to spring for that one yet.

Feed back Big genes would be appreciated.

[BigGenes]

Why would people hate on winny and Primo together Big Genes?? Im just asking, I have a sh!t load of zambons for my next cycle and was considering Primobolan $$$ instead of Deca or Equipoise for my next cycle with HGH and IGF-1 long R3 . The Next one is gonna be a long one trying to get to 300lbs and was wanting to finally use all these milder drugs instead of all these with higher side effects. Im thinkg of doing Anavar instead of D-bol as well. But I dont know if Ill be able to spring for that one yet.

Feed back Big genes would be appreciated.

B/c last time I talked about winnie and primo here, I got a bunch of stupid a$$ responces from some obveous retards that said to "stick with winnie alone at the end bro, thats to much ****, you don't need the primo and plus it won't help." well BlTCHES I got UG primo and its top notch. HAHAHAHAHA. Oh an anhydro, PM me at the Doc forum.

[fitnessNY]

You will be fine -- looks like a good cycle. You can add hcg to help with testicle atrophy.

[BigGenes]

You will be fine -- looks like a good cycle. You can add hcg to help with testicle atrophy.

You know if you read that wrong it looks like your saying he can use HCG to help testicular athrophy. Thats kinda funny. I know what your saying and so does everyone else, but look at it again and pretend you didn't know what HCG does. lol I am not hating, just pointing that out b/c there are no other posts going on.

[*Narkissos*]

You know if you read that wrong it looks like your saying he can use HCG to help testicular athrophy. Thats kinda funny. I know what your saying and so does everyone else, but look at it again and pretend you didn't know what HCG does. lol I am not hating, just pointing that out b/c there are no other posts going on.

nice one

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Sounds good Bermich...
question: Have you incorporated Deca in a cycle before with good results?
if yes... in what amount..and in combination with what?

[bermich]

nice one

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Sounds good Bermich...
question: Have you incorporated Deca in a cycle before with good results?
if yes... in what amount..and in combination with what?

Last cycle was about 3 months of Test E and Deca. I ran deca around 400-500 mgs a week. I forgot it was 300 mgs thinking it was 250 so I used a little more for a few weeks.
Deca added weight real quick. I just ended the cycle soon and think a longer cycle would be more benifical.

My balls dont shrink up that much so HCG wont be needed.

Maybe throw some winny in to shape up the deca bloat.