dbol and ot in one cycle

[bigj79]

I'm working on my next cycle. I plan to do as follows

First stats: 25 been lifting about 9 years, 6' tall, 240 pds


25dbol wk 1-4

500-750mg/wk (250 e2d) sus wk 1-5 (just b/c I got it ordered already, I know most people will say stick with a single ester but I got a deal on some redi's)

prop 100ed starting 1 or 2 days after last sus shot and continuing through week 13

BD oral turinabol have 100 10mg tabs I was planning on taking them towards the end, depending on the dose I pick the duration and timing will be adjusted (probabaly between 20-40mg daily for 25 to 50 days).

BD para 200-300 week 5-11 (I'll stop this early and continue with the prop and ot for anther 2 weeks or so)

Then PCT

I'll also be taking clen, eca, t3, b6 (for prolactin) and nolva in there usual fashion - don't feel like getting into the details now but I got the pct down.

My question is...do you guys see a problem with running two 17aa in the cycle. I've never used ot but its suppose to be mild and my dbol dose is fairly conservative. What do you think?

[juiceinthehood]

imo dont run 2 17 aa orals 2gether u only get one liver bro take care of it
what are ur sats and goals
5 weeks of sus ? at least 8 imo
ur cycle needs work bro

[tycin]

doin sust for 5 weeks is pointless.
its fine to start with dbol then go to ot later on. turinabol should b run 40-60mg/day for 4-6 weeks. and i have no exp with bd para so i dunno if thats ok or not.

its a messy cycle that could use some tuning.

[Mesomorphyl]

Yes you can run two orals in a cycle, your doses are conservative, and you are not running together(which you could at those doses) and are taking precautions and giving some time inbetween.

[Mesomorphyl]

doin sust for 5 weeks is pointless.
its fine to start with dbol then go to ot later on. turinabol should b run 40-60mg/day for 4-6 weeks. and i have no exp with bd para so i dunno if thats ok or not.

its a messy cycle that could use some tuning.

he is using prop anyway and he got a good deal on readyjects, GO FOR IT! and good luck.

[bigj79]

Here's more detail on my stats

25 yrs old, 6' tall, 240 pds, bodyfat 14% right now but I'm cutting so it will be lower soon. This cycle is for lbm gains. I also tend to carry some fat on my chest and gyno worries me thats why my dbol dose is low. I'll also be running a low dose of nolva throughout and b6 before during and after the para. I gain quite easy so keep that in mind.

If you read carefully you'll see I'm switching to prop from sus only because I have the sus and want to use it. Test is test. Don't think of it as 5 weeks of sus think of it as 13 weeks of test, I'm just changing esters because I want to use prop with para. As for the ot, I will be adding it in later, not running it concurrently with the dbol. I've read it is very mild but I'm still not sure if I should add it in it I plan to start off with dbol. Also, my doses of both dbol and ot are mild. I gain very easily. The ot will just be an adjunct to the para/prop combo, since I have it I'd like to use it and see how it works. In the 2004 Anabolics Llewelyn says a dose of 20-40 of ot is sufficient. I may just drop the dbol and keep the ot. That may solve a bunch of problems (i.e. not running two 17aa, limiting water retention and reducing my need for nolva).

[bigj79]

Here's more detail on my stats

25 yrs old, 6' tall, 240 pds, bodyfat 14% right now but I'm cutting so it will be lower soon. This cycle is for lbm gains. I also tend to carry some fat on my chest and gyno worries me thats why my dbol dose is low. I'll also be running a low dose of nolva throughout and b6 before during and after the para. I gain quite easy so keep that in mind.

If you read carefully you'll see I'm switching to prop from sus only because I have the sus and want to use it. Test is test. Don't think of it as 5 weeks of sus think of it as 13 weeks of test, I'm just changing esters because I want to use prop with para. As for the ot, I will be adding it in later, not running it concurrently with the dbol. I've read it is very mild but I'm still not sure if I should add it in it I plan to start off with dbol. Also, my doses of both dbol and ot are mild. I gain very easily. The ot will just be an adjunct to the para/prop combo, since I have it I'd like to use it and see how it works. In the 2004 Anabolics Llewelyn says a dose of 20-40 of ot is sufficient. I may just drop the dbol and keep the ot. That may solve a bunch of problems (i.e. not running two 17aa, limiting water retention and reducing my need for nolva).

[bigj79]

Here's more detail on my stats

25 yrs old, 6' tall, 240 pds, bodyfat 14% right now but I'm cutting so it will be lower soon. This cycle is for lbm gains. I also tend to carry some fat on my chest and gyno worries me thats why my dbol dose is low. I'll also be running a low dose of nolva throughout and b6 before during and after the para. I gain quite easy so keep that in mind.

If you read carefully you'll see I'm switching to prop from sus only because I have the sus and want to use it. Test is test. Don't think of it as 5 weeks of sus think of it as 13 weeks of test, I'm just changing esters because I want to use prop with para. As for the ot, I will be adding it in later, not running it concurrently with the dbol. I've read it is very mild but I'm still not sure if I should add it in it I plan to start off with dbol. Also, my doses of both dbol and ot are mild. I gain very easily. The ot will just be an adjunct to the para/prop combo, since I have it I'd like to use it and see how it works. In the 2004 Anabolics Llewelyn says a dose of 20-40 of ot is sufficient. I may just drop the dbol and keep the ot. That may solve a bunch of problems (i.e. not running two 17aa, limiting water retention and reducing my need for nolva).

[bigj79]

Sorry about the multiple posts something just went crazy, lol.