Did research but Need some basic cycle help....

[Deezuhl]

I have been researching on here for a while and see some monster cycles guys come up with and i dont know how they derived how many weeks of each to take. Why 1 stops before the other, why one must be ran at a higher dosage than the other etc.. My last cycle was 12 weeks - 500mg Ed test e and 7-12 100mg eod winny.I like these 5 particular substances and would like to create a cycle with them and if anything can be added in to it thats not an ED injection I'm up for it. no deca, my hair is bad from the winny last cycle. and no d bol cause my liver took a beating from the last cycle too.

Test Enanthate- for sure.
EQ- for sure
TEst Cyp- i would like to have more than 1 test int his cycle
Anadrol- i read major mass builder
Aanavar- dotn know much about but i read it works well.

I'm 13-14% Bf 210lbs. Looking to bulk up like a monster this time around.

[seanw]

Couple of comments. Test E and Test C are basically the same, its pointless running both in the same cycle.

Anadrol is harder on the liver than Dbol so you might want to reconsider that.


So I would go

Test E
Eq
Anavar

[Deezuhl]

thank you i will make note of it. I was told before test e and cyp are almost the same esters. wanted to verify i guess. Is drol worse than winny inj on the liver?? i didnt realize its a 17aa steroid i guess.

[G-1000]

drol is real hard on the live. the var is the best if you do not wont to put much strain on it. take a look at this ans see what you think.

1-13 test 500mg week
1-12 eq 400mg
10-16 var 50mg day
16-19 pct

[TheMudMan]

thank you i will make note of it. I was told before test e and cyp are almost the same esters. wanted to verify i guess. Is drol worse than winny inj on the liver??

Drol is a lot harsher over all for some users. If you haven't ran d-bol before then I would suggest going with d-bol first before using drol.

1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 500mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 500mg /wk
8 - 15 Var 50mg ED
1 - 15 Letro 1.25mg EOD
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection - Use Pheedno's PCT plan

[Deezuhl]

drol is real hard on the live. the var is the best if you do not wont to put much strain on it. take a look at this ans see what you think.

1-13 test 500mg week
1-12 eq 400mg
10-16 var 50mg day
16-19 pct

That looks like a nice cycle. I had something simple like this in mind
1-13 test 500mg week
1-12 eq 400mg

but didnt know where the others come into play. can you tell me what the var does??? does it work similar to winny?? is there any other test forms that are a eod or 2x ew inj. i really want to try another form of test also so i can see how my body reacts to it. I dont care much about the sides except the liver really. hell with the hair!!!

thanks,
Mike

[G-1000]

var will help with keeping the new muscle. it it will harden the muscle and len you down with the right diet. the var also will not be as hard on the liver as the winny. as far as the test all you need is one ester no need for more but if you like you can run sust or andropen. bolth of them are mixed test but will need to be shoot eod.

[Deezuhl]

Drol is a lot harsher over all for some users. If you haven't ran d-bol before then I would suggest going with d-bol first before using drol.

1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 500mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 500mg /wk
8 - 15 Var 50mg ED
1 - 15 Letro 1.25mg EOD
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection - Use Pheedno's PCT plan

can i bump up the EQ to 600mg since its 200mg per cc. so 1.5 cc 2x ew??

[anaBROLIC]

you should run a higher amount of test then the EQ..

[Deezuhl]

var will help with keeping the new muscle. it it will harden the muscle and len you down with the right diet. the var also will not be as hard on the liver as the winny. as far as the test all you need is one ester no need for more but if you like you can run sust or andropen. bolth of them are mixed test but will need to be shoot eod.

Ok, thats exactly what i am looking for. anavar is the way i will go. Can you explain more or less what tren does?? It seems to be very popular on here too.

[TheMudMan]

you should run a higher amount of test then the EQ..

YOu don't have too.......... EQ and test can be ran at the same dosages.

[TheMudMan]

can i bump up the EQ to 600mg since its 200mg per cc. so 1.5 cc 2x ew??

If you bump up the EQ to 600 then you need to do the same with the test.

[anaBROLIC]

YOu don't have too.......... EQ and test can be ran at the same dosages.

This is true. I personally prefer running test slightly higher dosages then all other compounds.

[Deezuhl]

you should run a higher amount of test then the EQ..

ok, i wasnt sure although most of the sample cycle i saw were with the test higher or atleats the same. then is it ok to inject 1.5 cc 300mg and then 1cc 200mg next shot. and alternate??

I know you guys may crucify me for asking this and i know larger doses is not always better but i see some cycles posted on here that people say are fine with test at 750mg ew. could I run 750mg test and 600 eq??

[anaBROLIC]

ok, i wasnt sure although most of the sample cycle i saw were with the test higher or atleats the same. then is it ok to inject 1.5 cc 300mg and then 1cc 200mg next shot. and alternate??

I know you guys may crucify me for asking this and i know larger doses is not always better but i see some cycles posted on here that people say are fine with test at 750mg ew. could I run 750mg test and 600 eq??

you can do 1.25 cc at 200mgs/ml twice a week to equal 500mgs

[TheMudMan]

ok, i wasnt sure although most of the sample cycle i saw were with the test higher or atleats the same. then is it ok to inject 1.5 cc 300mg and then 1cc 200mg next shot. and alternate??

I know you guys may crucify me for asking this and i know larger doses is not always better but i see some cycles posted on here that people say are fine with test at 750mg ew. could I run 750mg test and 600 eq??

You could but that doesn't mean you grow much more then with 500 or 600mg of test.......... more gear could bring on more sides.

[Deezuhl]

you can do 1.25 cc at 200mgs/ml twice a week to equal 500mgs

i was just trying to be as accurate as possible in the syringe.

[Deezuhl]

You could but that doesn't mean you grow much more then with 500 or 600mg of test.......... more gear could bring on more sides.

what is your suggestion?? Your the vet. I'm all ears. I'll say this. I had no sides at all from the 500mg of test before. EQ i have never used and i know d- bol has bad sides but i can live with it for 4 weeks. i really think EQ would do me good for what i am looking for. I know EQ is a mild steroid.I would just like to experiment a little on this cycle and go with maybe a different level of test if i am not going to mix in a different test to see if i get any different gains sides etc.. what do you think??

[Deezuhl]

I am still researching on here. I noticed in some other cycles, prop at the end. Can i add in prop at the end for like 3-4 weeks. like 75 mg ed.

so something like this maybe..

1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
8 - 15 Var 50mg ED
11-13 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 15 Letro 1.25mg EOD
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED