Hello Users Im Back Been Away From This Site Two Years Now Been Away For Personal Reasons Anyway Just Thought Id Post And See What Tests Are Workin For What People And There Favourite Test
Hello Users Im Back Been Away From This Site Two Years Now Been Away For Personal Reasons Anyway Just Thought Id Post And See What Tests Are Workin For What People And There Favourite Test
Prop for cutting!
Enth for bulking!!!!
Enanthate. Suspension's fun.
eth & suspension 4 me 2
supertest 250 because sust for 3.50 a ml is sweet and I like it to bulk or cut...
yeah without a doubt i have had my best results for bulking through enanthate dont get along with sust keep gettin that famous sust flu pain in the ass
i like t4...but im strange
prop & enan
ditto, but am thinking of brewing some isocaproate or phenylprop which lies between the two meaning EOD injects instead of EDprop & enan
test E
I would have to say multiple choice w/ short answer coming in a close 2nd!!
Test E = Bulking
Prop= Cutting
Suspention= cutting
Test C= bulking
Sust =Bulking
imo
enan or cyp all the same
Im surprised theres not more people voting for sust.
propionate
enan and prop
suatanon, unless your talking single esther, then enanthate
for reals!Originally Posted by Testsubject
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i like enthanate or cypionate and feel sustanon is underrated you get less bloat from sus than test e or c.
prop... would like to try suspension on my next cycle.
suspension belongs in a museum.Originally Posted by mule1983
IMO prop and Test no Ester(suspension) are superior to cyp and enanthate, heres why (from pacesetter at the bolex board)
There is one way that we can say an ester does technically effect potency; it is calculated in the steroid weight. The heavier the ester chain, the greater is its percentage of the total weight. In the case of testosterone enanthate for example, 250mg of esterified steroid (testosterone enanthate) is equal to only 180mg of free testosterone. 70mgs out of each 250mg injection is the weight of the ester. If we wanted to be really picky, we could consider enanthate slightly MORE potent than cypionate (I know this goes against popular thinking) as its ester chain contains one less carbon atom (therefore taking up a slightly smaller percentage of total weight). Propionate would of course come out on top of the three, releasing a measurable (but not significant) amount more testosterone per injection than cypionate or enanthate.
The number of carbons also has a small effect in that it reduces the parent drug’s proportion of the total weight. E.g., it would take 344 mg of testosterone propionate, or 401 mg of testosterone enanthate to give the same amount of testosterone as in 288 mg of testosterone suspension.
Now, you have to remember that the ester is going to add more weight to the molecule. The larger the ester the less base steroid there is going to be in a 100mg steroid ester. You can use the following chart to figure this out:
Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Acetate = C2 H2 O = 42.1mg = 87.26mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Enanthate = C7 H12 O = 112.2mg = 71.99mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg
Decanoate = C10 H18 O = 154.3mg = 65.15mg
This chart shows that as far as molecular weight goes Test. Suspension is king of the road, followed by propoinate, then enanthate, and finally cypionate though the last two are very close.
Keep in mind though. Testosterone suspension is the same as Testosterone cypionate once the cypionate ester has been cleaved off by esterases in your body. Testosterone is testosterone no matter how you look at it!!!
hey DON welcome back, **** that avatar brings back memories, just thinking about that ttokkyo sust is making my ass sore lol
Test E
cheers ibiza69 its good to b back just cant believe how much better the forum is now and how many hardcore juicers their is out their now
ive only done prop and t4. they were both great but the prop gave me flu so i gotta say t4
prop
i love all test
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