Does EVERY cycle have to be based around a form of test? would it be best for a athlete already around the desired weight/size whos not lookin for mass, does allot of conditioning work such as runs, sprints, intervals, circuit training as well as heavy weights and heavy bag, to avoid test and base a cycle around compounds which do not convert to estrogen, bloat, rapid weight gain such as - Primobolan, trenbolone, Anavar, Winstrol, Masteron,