Ok so maybe i did come across as some sort of person looking to make a profit. Didnt mean to. All i was doing was telling my story of how i didnt know anything to the point where i can pretty much name or reccomend anything. That is the only point i was stressing, it seems that its good to help educate people that first try this body enhancing stuff we invented, but just that it why should we let the scammers make us so angry. They are not going to go away, i showed u how i learned my way around it. Maybe i was rambling on in the last thread, but i still think im right.