first cycle

[BALLASTATUS]

What do you guys think of this, i only have 10 weeks

Weeks 1-8 test
1-4 d-bol
nolva on hand but if no Gyno then 8-10 Clomid and nolva
That sound alright for a cycle before f-ball season?

[dive_kid]

what kind of test is it? test-e and cyp take atleas 4 weeks to kick in fully.

[hosam4ever]

what r the doses & ur states

[JohnnyB]

I'd drop the d-bol and extend the test to 10 week, start pct 2 weeks after last injection

JohnnyB

[BALLASTATUS]

ok my problem is that i only have 10 weeks total.... any advice... i have 6 weeks worth of winny 50 mg tabs... i can get test... im 6'2" 270 looking to put on some muscle, cut some fat and feel quicker and more solid before season i bench about 350 squat near 500

[BALLASTATUS]

bumpppp

[pyschomab]

throw some deca in there it will help! but cycle the test and use the dbol for the first 4 weeks and the last 6 take winny and pct with clomid and hcg !

[longhorn814]

ok my problem is that i only have 10 weeks total.... any advice... i have 6 weeks worth of winny 50 mg tabs... i can get test... im 6'2" 270 looking to put on some muscle, cut some fat and feel quicker and more solid before season i bench about 350 squat near 500

well it sounds like you dont have enough time to do that cycle b/c even if you do test e for 8 weeks, which isnt long enough BTW, you cant start PCT until two weeks after you last shot, which is week 10 and then you need to do at least 3 weeks of PCT.

[BALLASTATUS]

any advice for a cycle that is 8 weeks long... i know you guys are against doing things like this...

[BALLASTATUS]

i was thinking maybe 1-8 deca 4-8 winny PCT clomid and nolva on hand???

[pyschomab]

just take it all as much as you can for 8 weeks and tell us what happens!

[BALLASTATUS]

bump

[longhorn814]

i was thinking maybe 1-8 deca 4-8 winny PCT clomid and nolva on hand???

even worse and idea, deca needs to be run with test, otherwise there's a good chance youre dick will stop working!!! Besides you cant start PCT until 21 days after you last shot of deca. If you want to run an 8 week cycle, youre gonna have to take a fast acting ester like test prop and shoot it everyday. You could do 75mg/ed of prop for 8 weeks and you have to start PCT 3 days after last shot, but you still need to do PCT for at least 21 days. Long esters like test e and deca take 4-5 weeks to kick in so you wont get much out of it

[BALLASTATUS]

what about maybe doing 1-6 winny 3-6 dbol 6-8 pct clomid and nolvadex

[BALLASTATUS]

with milk thistle 1200 mg per day Glucosmine/MSM/Chondriton ... and Flaxseed pills for joints

[longhorn814]

what about maybe doing 1-6 winny 3-6 dbol 6-8 pct clomid and nolvadex

only if you dont mind not having a liver!! 2 orals in one cycle is not a good idea it can really mess up your liver and cholesterol values, besides you need test otherwise your libido can become surpressed. If you dont have time to do a cycle correctly just wait until you do.