Tren Rules of Thumb?

[fanatic]

Ive researched tren alot but I cant find a definitive answer. What ratio Tren-Test should I do? If I run 80mg of test p/day how much tren a should I run/day? Thanks ahead of time.

[stocky121]

if your running 80mg of prop i would run 50mg of tren ed

[symatech]

yeah the dose isn't set in stone. but 50mg ed is a good choice for 80mg prop

[Deezuhl]

to be honest there I dont beleive there is a ratio for tren. its too harsh to run that way. i run 1gm test or more and still keep tren at 400-500mg regardless of the other amount of compounds i am running.

[G-1000]

tren almost killed me today. today i was in a rush so i drew eq and tren in the same pin. then i used a 22g to shoot my glute. i used the 22g so i could inject fatster. well i went and injected and like 1 min later is hit me. i got tren cough for the first time. it was so bad i could not breath. then i started to puke for like 5 min. this sucked i lost like 500cal of food i had just ate. so after like 10 min i started to feel a little better.

so long story shoot dont shoot tren fast with a 22g needle.

[fanatic]

Cool. Ill start off with 50mg tren/day and just go from there. Thanks guys.

[STRANGE]

i plan on running
prop 100mg ED
75mg of tren ED

[nate3422]

im running 75mg of each ed

[YerkyYerkwood]

So is it common to get even a mild cough with tren? I did my first ever hit of tren today and maybe coughed lightly for about three or four minutes.

[Deezuhl]

So is it common to get even a mild cough with tren? I did my first ever hit of tren today and maybe coughed lightly for about three or four minutes.

never experienced it the whole 12 weeks on tren e. i think it happens on A more than on E..

[YerkyYerkwood]

I have Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate or Trenabol Depot.

[Deezuhl]

I have Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate or Trenabol Depot.

tren hex is another ester i am not very familiar with.. anyone else have some info on tren hex..?? I beleive its similar to tren a without looking it up..

[scotttiger54]

tren hex is another ester i am not very familiar with.. anyone else have some info on tren hex..?? I beleive its similar to tren a without looking it up..

not very well read on the stuff but i think its the one that has 3 different kinds of tren in it thats made by BD. but don't take that info to the bank

[Deezuhl]

not very well read on the stuff but i think its the one that has 3 different kinds of tren in it thats made by BD. but don't take that info to the bank

yeah bd makes a hex and and blend with hex as do several other labs too..

[mark956101957]

tren almost killed me today. today i was in a rush so i drew eq and tren in the same pin. then i used a 22g to shoot my glute. i used the 22g so i could inject fatster. well i went and injected and like 1 min later is hit me. i got tren cough for the first time. it was so bad i could not breath. then i started to puke for like 5 min. this sucked i lost like 500cal of food i had just ate. so after like 10 min i started to feel a little better.

so long story shoot dont shoot tren fast with a 22g needle.

Dude 1st time you have got the tren cough? That is a rough way to be introduced to it. It is a bitch but I have been lucky enough to never have puked yet. When I get it now it is pretty weak and last 2 minutes tops along with a lot of itching and than it goes away. When it doesn't happen I am almost surprised but I have found when I hit the medial glute I usually don't get it.

[Billyspt4]

I've been on Tren A for about 4 weeks now and luckily haven't experienced a cough yet, hopefully I won't, but my friend has, but not too bad.

I use 75mg/ Tren A eod and 500mg Test E per week

[General Patton]

I've been on Tren A for about 4 weeks now and luckily haven't experienced a cough yet, hopefully I won't, but my friend has, but not too bad.

I use 75mg/ Tren A eod and 500mg Test E per week

I'm at this exact dosage due to neg sides if higher. I still get real strong on Tren at that dose and no night sweats. I am oily as crap and bad acne on my back though....and this is only week 2 for me. I'm stacking it with Sydgroup Cyp at 600mg per week. I frontloaded with 2 grams of QV Cyp in week 1. It was underdosed and I was tired of seeing it laying around. Justwatch your urine bro...tren is hard on the kidneys. Drink plenty of water....but that goes for any cycle.

[The Baron]

The tren dosage is the more critical of the two. Set your tren dose for max gains which means seeing some sides but keeping them manageable and bearable. If you don't have any sides, you are probably not getting the full benefit that tren has to offer. If your sides are destroying your social life, then obviously you are running the tren too high. Typically this range will be between 50 and 75mg ED so that is a good place to start. Adjust your dose as needed. The prop is not so critical, but it is preferable to have the prop a little higher than the tren. So adjust your tren dosage and then bump your prop to keep it higher. 50 and 75 are a good place to start.You can front load the prop if you like, but I would not front load the tren.

Okay back to my cheat day meal... homemade banana/pecan/chocolate chip ice cream. YUM!


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[fanatic]

So is tren alot worse than test p as far as acne goes?

[stocky121]

So is tren alot worse than test p as far as acne goes?

i would say so yes mg for mg tren will give you more side affect's like scne and increased aggresion

[fanatic]

hmmm... would proscar help that? I really want to do tren for my nest cycle but I havent decided. If I do, heres what it'll look like:
Week 1-8: Test E 250mg 2x/week
Week 1-4: Dbol
Week 9-14: Test P 80mg/day
Tren 50mg/day
Winny 50mg/day

How's that look? It will be my second cycle. I may not do the winny if the tren will help lean me out. Critique away.

[stocky121]

hmmm... would proscar help that? I really want to do tren for my nest cycle but I havent decided. If I do, heres what it'll look like:
Week 1-8: Test E 250mg 2x/week
Week 1-4: Dbol
Week 9-14: Test P 80mg/day
Tren 50mg/day
Winny 50mg/day

How's that look? It will be my second cycle. I may not do the winny if the tren will help lean me out. Critique away.

what week's are you running the tren and winny

[fanatic]

I meant to indent, sorry. weeks 9-14.

[stocky121]

I meant to indent, sorry. weeks 9-14.

i would run the tren week's 1-10 and leave the winny out this cycle

[Deezuhl]

I meant to indent, sorry. weeks 9-14.

5 weeks of tren is a waste.. tren a should be run 8 weeks min 12 max and tren e 10-12 weeks. oh and i wouldnt run tren and winny side by side for sure..

[fanatic]

cool.
Week 1-14: Test P 80mg/day
Week 1-4: Dbol
Week 1-8: Tren 50mg/day
Week 9-14: Winny 50mg/day


Hows this look? Oh, what is a good dose for the dbol?

[The Baron]

Whut? Tren and winny together are the bee's knees! Well, with test, too, of course. Why wouldn't you run them together, Deezuhl? But I agree 5 weeks is short, for fina. Fanatic seems to have a handle on it. I would taper down the dbol in weeks 3 and 4, I think... take it easy on ol' mr liver before hitting the winny. 4 weeks off and then 6 weeks of winny is asking a lot of it. I think I would go 50mg/ED week 1, 40mg week 2, then maybe 35 and 25, something like that.

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[fanatic]

OK, hows this look?
Week 1-14: Test P 80mg/day
Week 1-8: Tren A 50mg/day
Week 1-4: Dbol 50mg/day(wk 1) 40mg/day(wk 2) 35mg/day(wk 3) 25mg/day(wk 4)
Week 9-14: Winny 50 mg/day

I was thinking about running test E for the first 8 weeks, then switching to test p when I start the winny in week 9 to decrease daily injections. What do you guys think about any of this? Also, is this too harsh for a second cycle?

[The Baron]

OK, hows this look?
Week 1-14: Test P 80mg/day
Week 1-8: Tren A 50mg/day
Week 1-4: Dbol 50mg/day(wk 1) 40mg/day(wk 2) 35mg/day(wk 3) 25mg/day(wk 4)
Week 9-14: Winny 50 mg/day

I was thinking about running test E for the first 8 weeks, then switching to test p when I start the winny in week 9 to decrease daily injections. What do you guys think about any of this? Also, is this too harsh for a second cycle?

Good... but it is complicated, switching back and forth between short and long esters. And wince it takes a while for the test E to kick in, you can't start the tren right away. See, the tren shuts you down. Of course, the test shuts you down, too, but you are shooting test anyway so you don''t really notice the shutdown. But if you are shut down in a hurry before the test kicks in, well, that sucks. So START your cycle with at least a kickstart of prop, while starting the test E, and then clean up with prop at the end. This can be too complicated for a beginner, so sometimes it is best to just keep it simple. Prop and tren A are like peas and carrots... can't hardly go wrong stacking them together. Sticking test E in there requires a lot of thought and really, some experience, too. JMO.

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[fanatic]

Ok, I'll go with the prop. Everyday injections don't really bother me so I think I can swing it. To keep my injections limited, can I shoot test and tren from the same syringe at the same time?

[Deezuhl]

Ok, I'll go with the prop. Everyday injections don't really bother me so I think I can swing it. To keep my injections limited, can I shoot test and tren from the same syringe at the same time?

yes test and tren can be shot from the same syringe.. FYI.. even test and winny can be shot from the same syringe..

[fanatic]

Sweet! My 2nd cycle sounds much less painful now.