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I took this cycle,
Test E 500mgs - 10 weeks
Deca 300mgs - 8 weeks
Nolvadex pct, i'm on day 17 of pct and i have no sex drive. Nothing can turn me on, i can't get an erection and it's a good job i'm single. How long will it take till my nat test recovers.
Senior Member
viagra dude...give that a try
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get some hcg
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It will take longer then that, do pct until you feel right again, I did clomid for a month and nolva for a month started feeling right, but Im 30 so i figure it takes longer.
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...I like to run Clomid and Nolva during PCT, but that's just what works well for me....Originally Posted by Xplosive
There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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Same time??I ran my clomid first then changed to nolva.
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..Yes, I usually use the Pheedno-style PCT.....Same time??
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626
...it's worked well for me.......I know others prefer to run it differently, but, anyway...
There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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I smell what your stepp'n in!
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yes this might help
Anabolic Member
No hcg during pct! I know how you fell bro sometimes you have to wait a bit till that natural test kicks in till than your like a eunuch......
Senior Member
what did u run ur nolvadex at for tha first 2 weeks? if u did only nolva u shoulda done 40mg/day first 2 weeks and 20mg/day until everythings back, may take a while
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Some use throughout cycle. It makes sense what your saying but I think some believe that you could use hcg at any point that you needed it. Wondering what your take is on this bro. Why is timing so important? Im asking bc this time around im one of those guys using hcg throughout.
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Most say not to use HCG during PCT because it can be suppressive when taken in larger doses. However if your testicles are very atrophied, it can be worth it since HCG will bring them back fairly quickly and make your natural LH (as well as clomid) be more effective sooner.
IMO the best way to use it is to take small doses (~500iu) 2 or 3 times a week for the last half of the cycle, stopping right before PCT. You could also take larger doses for a week or two between your last injection and the start of PCT.
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Wow see there are so many opinions on this topic.
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100mg day 1, 40mg days 2-13, and now doing 20mg days 14-21.
Junior Member
Since he has only been taking novadex for pct, why couldn't he use HCG to kickstart his 'nads then run a full pct (Pheedno style)? I am new to this so I may be wrong, but that makes perfect sense to me.
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run both at the same time dude :P well if you want toget your hardon back...Same time??
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order some liquid Cialis
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hmm cialis just 'helps get it up'(bloodflow to penis). I'm not sure if it would help with sex drive.
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you should not use hcg at the same time as clomid,if you are goin to use hcg for pctit should be used within the time of last test inj and the start of clomid therapy,imo.
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yeah well when you got a raging hard on... it helps with the sex drive... jmho
Anabolic Member
Cialis will do nothing for sex drive. No sex drive = no errection; on cialis or not. More nolvadex, for a longer duration, will help improve sex drive. Tribulus, tongkat ali, etc can't hurt either. Only after your sex drive returns will the cialis be of any benefit. I feel like a raging bull on it
Fourth Koala of the Apocalypse
First, though this is not germaine to the question, your cycle was too short. Should have been 2 to 4 weeks longer.
Now, as for the hcg, there are three ways to run it... low dose all through the cycle, low dose beginning when atrophy is first noted, or only at the very end with a higher dose. A low dose would be under 500iu E3D. I use 250 myself. A high dose would be 1000iu EOD or somewhat like that, no more than 5 shots. In other words, high dose for a duration of no more than 10 days. At any rate, no matter which method you use, the last shot of hcg should be a week before you begin pct.
PCT after a cycle like yours should begin about three weeks after the last AAS injection. If you used nolva during the cycle, it is imperative that you keep using it through the end of pct. The main pct drug should be clomid. Dosing is not critical and there are different regimens that are accepted as proper and useful. Usually, one front-loads by using 200-300mg the first day, 100mg/ED the following week, and then 50mg/ED the last three weeks. Do not exceed those doses for the front load. High doses can have some freaky sides like vision problems.
After a cycle with deca in it, even with a proper pct, it can take a while to recover. 17 days is nothing. Your pct is not up to snuff. I would be very surprised if you were fully recovered!
You can keep muddling along as you are, or you can take maybe three 1000iu shots of hcg EOD, and begin a REAL pct a week after the final shot. Frankly I don't know whether that would have you recovering sooner than continuing as you are, or not, but you do need clomid, whichever route you choose.
Cialis will indeed help you achieve erection in the total absence of desire, with some physical stimulation. Only thing is, then you have this hardon and no desire to do anything with it except wait for that inconveniently erect appendage to go back down.
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Just a quick glimmer of hope, my friend. Thought I had Deca Dick in the middle of my Deca/winny cycle. Panicked from what I read. Went into my head for a while about it and then convinced my self that I really did have a sex drive. Bro, my drive is better than ever, only because I don’t dwell on the fact that I don’t have one.
I’m sure there will those who will explain how it is not possible because natural test production is shut down, but I’m here to tell you that you might consider getting your head screwed on straight about this and find it coming back quicker than you think. And I mean that in the nicest way, so don’t get bent.!
Junior Member
give the herb fenugreek a try..it gets my libido and my nuts back real quick. and you shoot a fantastic load.
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Anyone tried the liquid viagra I have heard it is good???
Anabolic Member
Well I was having the same problem... I am now approaching the final few weeks of a 6 month long 750 mg test cyp/500 mg deca a day cycle. At the 4th month, I was getting deca dicked bad. I started tongkat ali and it cured hard on problems but also desire is back, balls regrew to normal size, cum loads improved and ability to cum is back on par. This in spite of continuing the deca cycle. Tongkat ali cured everything!
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i wouldnt recomment running the hcg during your PCT...just keep doing what you are doing and itll come back maybe next cycle you could throw some hcg in there though...
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Last day of pct today and i woke up with a hardon. So does that mean its recovering, sex drive is coming back. So how long will it take for me to fully recover?
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Can Anybody Tell Me Where I Can Get Mag-10 Or A Product Better.
Thanks Black Dragon.
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Guys it's been months after my original post and four months after pct. My sex drive is there but I can't get an hardon. Help what shall I do? Should I redo pct or get some hcg.
Senior Member
100 mg mesterolone ed.
and cialis ?
Associate Member
Can you take it after your pack? and if so how long??
thanks!!!!
Anabolic Member
This is why I never use test or deca anymore, shuts you down to bad. And pct will be libodo-hell.
Anabolic Member
Im 36 y/o and i did hcg 10.000iu.Every 4 to 5 days i shoot 2.500 iu after a cyle of Sustanon 750/week and Eq 600 mg/week for almost 15 weeks,it took long time for my sexdrive to come back,now i feel very good,no problems,yust me and my BMW 528i and girls...girls...girls...!
Anabolic Member
Im 36 y/o and i did hcg 10.000iu.Every 4 to 5 days i shoot 2.500 iu after a cyle of Sustanon 750/week and Eq 600 mg/week for almost 15 weeks,it took long time for my sexdrive to come back,now i feel very good,no problems,yust me and my BMW 528i and girls...girls...girls...!
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If you get your level checked by your doctor you may be eligible for HRT.
Associate Member
what do you use then?
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