Soon I'll do a deca/test cycle with nolvadex as PCT
could I experience any depression? if so, how long ?
Soon I'll do a deca/test cycle with nolvadex as PCT
could I experience any depression? if so, how long ?
depends on the person i know some people that get it for like a week and some dont get it at all...
clomid should be a part of ur pct aswell, have u done enough research?
yeah, but I know a lot of people that just postcycle nolvadex and are fineOriginally Posted by icedudez
I dont think Nolva on its own is strong enough to fire up your natural test very well, you should use clomid.
i only use nolvadex for pct also, but when i used deca i was depressed until i stopped using it, so it was on cycle for me, dont like tha shit man some serious things go through my mind
edit: PCT should look like this Nolvadex 40mg/day for first 2 weeks, 20mg/day until u feel it is unneeded
edit 2: pm me or JohnnyB if u have a question about that PCT
Last edited by fballhoss51; 08-14-2005 at 10:49 AM.
I agree my first cycle was deca only for 12 weeks and I was never depressed or had deca d*ck.Originally Posted by King David
same cycle, but i was depressed, but no deca dickOriginally Posted by USN DV
Why leave out the clomid ?
read many studies showing that clomid isnt needed, also read many studies on tha bad side effects of clomid, id just must rather not use it
Humm, works good for me, no sides either. but I guess everyone's different.
well my vision is terrible, and i dont wanna take a chance at worsening it
I've used them both, no side effects for me either. But you can use either for PCTOriginally Posted by eGGz
For a cycle with deca included I would use both clomid and nolva. If it is longer that 12 weeks I'd add hcg too.Originally Posted by USN DV
I understand your vision concerns fballhoss51. Each person has different needs, concerns and goals.
cheers ~eGGz~
I think it depends on the person.
I'm prone to depression myself. So post cycle I usually look at a week or two of raw depression. It sucks seeing your gains go away, and seeing your strength decrease.
For me it usually kicks in around 4 weeks after my last injection.
I try to take clomids as recommended, but for some reason clomids make me completely nuts. I'm easily distracted and can't focus well when I'm on clomids. Novaldex I can take with 0 side effects.
So I usually just take Nov during cycle, and try to handle what little clomids I can handle post cyle.
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