50 Year Old - First Cycle: Yes or No?

**Triposinator** · 09-13-2005, 01:16 PM

I'm thinking abut using gear for the first time, to get me over the
top of a plateau I've reached in adding lean body mass.

Stats
I'm 5'9" tall, 178 pounds, and 10 to 12% body fat on a 7 point caliper
measure. My Test levels are on the very low side, but still in the normal range. Lift every week for 2 years (after being off for 10 years) using 4 day cycle, and do cardio 3 times a week. My diet is very solid NO JUNK or alcohol (couldn't say that 2 years ago LOL). I run about 2,800 calories a day of a good mix, including 250 gr of protien.

I'm planning the following cycle (from legitimate sources):

Week 1-10 400mg of Test E
Week 11-12 300 and 200 of Test E
Week 1-12 .25mg Arimidex - Bloat bugs me
Nolva for PCT - but "at the ready day 1"

I'd bump my calories to 3,500-3,800/day, and watch it like a hawk.

I'd especially like to hear from the other "geriatirics" out there.
If I can retain 11-15 pounds of LBM I'll likely be happy forever. Anybody who thinks this is a piece of cake at age 50 be sure and show me your pictures

I realize I'm a little light on the Test based upon recommendations I see
for 500mg/week. But I'm a concerned about loosing my nuts or blowing up
my prostate

In fact, I'm thinking I may go with a 8 or 10 week cycle just
to manage that....but that will wait until I'm underway.

Thoughts, concerns or advice? Bring 'em !

**powerliftmike** · 09-13-2005, 01:19 PM

good cycle, being 50 years old you wont need as much test as some of the younger guys. I think youll be pleased with the results of this cycle.

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 01:23 PM

Why not just go on a standard HRT protocol?I don't see the need for you to start a cycle at your age(even though it's young IMO).The HRT will help you retain your curent size,and for the first few months you'll grow a tiny bit since you'll be introducing a higher amount of Testosterone to your system.
Just suggesting though.You'll do well with the cycle you have planned above.Good luck on whatever you decide to do!!

~Pinnacle~

**spud** · 09-13-2005, 02:23 PM

I'm 45 so I guess I'm getting close to geriatric. I'm starting to like Lawrence Welk and I drive slower than I used to!

I think you'll be pretty happy with your cycle. I'd suggest not tapering down the test in the last week. IMHO it's just not necessary.
Taking some Saw Palmetto is always good for your prostate. You really should have a PSA and "digital" exam for prostate cancer as test/DHT can accelerate prostate cancer quite quickly.
I like taking 10mg nolva through a cycle because of the benefit to your cholesterol levels. You should check them before and during the cycle along with your BP. Watch your salt intake.

Having some HCG will really help your nuts if they start to atrophy. Proviron is always fun for the Mrs. and it helps with gains too!

I think you'll enjoy it!

good luck,
spud

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 02:48 PM

He's being romanced by the dark side...

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

He's being romanced by the dark side...

I didn't come to him in a dream.Don't blame me.

~Pinnacle~

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

I didn't come to him in a dream.Don't blame me.

~Pinnacle~

I wouldn't put it past u.....

**big_C** · 09-13-2005, 03:45 PM

well i'm not real old but older than alot of guys here...35 yo and did my first cycle at 25...and I can tell you i'll be doing it at 50 too!! That's a real good cycle, you'll see good gains from it, and Test only IMO is the way to go the first time out of the gate. Next cycle you do, and there will be a second once you see the gains from this one, add an oral to it. You'll be happy from this one, and it just goes to show...your never to old!! good luck and keep us posted!!

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by big_C

well i'm not real old but older than alot of guys here...35 yo and did my first cycle at 25...and I can tell you i'll be doing it at 50 too!! That's a real good cycle, you'll see good gains from it, and Test only IMO is the way to go the first time out of the gate. Next cycle you do, and there will be a second once you see the gains from this one, add an oral to it. You'll be happy from this one, and it just goes to show...your never to old!! good luck and keep us posted!!

That Pinnacle guy is almost 50....

**big_C** · 09-13-2005, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

That Pinnacle guy is almost 50....

really....well maybe i'm young than...aaahhh that feels good!!

**IBdmfkr** · 09-13-2005, 03:53 PM

I heard pinnacle has a walker??? What's that all about.

btw, I'd suggest going to doc. and getting prescribed test for HRT, since you stated your test levels are low. Good luck

**mark956101957** · 09-13-2005, 03:56 PM

I am 48 and will be done with this cycle in 3 weeks. It was prop 700mg, EQ 600mg, tren 75mg ED which I did for the firsrt four months and now I am just on 550mg prop and 70 mg var everyday. This is my 5th or so cycle. My first one was when I was 30 and than I stopped the gear till I was 45 again. I say go for it. I am in the best shape as far as having dense muscle and strength than I ever have been before. I am 5'10", 205lbs and 12% body fat. At 48 I would say that is not bad. My gf loves it and when I am done with this one I will be off for 6 months, get blood work and probably do another one next year if all checks out. I will have gained 20 lbs off cycle of muscle in the last 2 years. And probably will still be doing cycles at 50. Good luck.

**stupidhippo** · 09-13-2005, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by spud

I'm 45 so I guess I'm getting close to geriatric. I'm starting to like Lawrence Welk and I drive slower than I used to!

I think you'll be pretty happy with your cycle. I'd suggest not tapering down the test in the last week. IMHO it's just not necessary.
Taking some Saw Palmetto is always good for your prostate. You really should have a PSA and "digital" exam for prostate cancer as test/DHT can accelerate prostate cancer quite quickly.
I like taking 10mg nolva through a cycle because of the benefit to your cholesterol levels. You should check them before and during the cycle along with your BP. Watch your salt intake.

Having some HCG will really help your nuts if they start to atrophy. Proviron is always fun for the Mrs. and it helps with gains too!

I think you'll enjoy it!

good luck,
spud

agreed, get these things tested. Getting bloodwork done IMO is important for everyone but especially to those of us who are a lil older..

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

I heard pinnacle has a walker??? What's that all about.

btw, I'd suggest going to doc. and getting prescribed test for HRT, since you stated your test levels are low. Good luck

Yeah, just about wheel chair material actually. He just does upper body now cuz his glutes and quads are nerve damaged from too many IM injections. So he told me he wears those baggy multi colored work out pants. That way you can't really tell if he has wheels or not. I think he's injecting into his face now so the AAS distributes evenly down his neck? I dunno for sure, you just have to ask him....

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 04:36 PM

~Pinnacle~

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

I heard pinnacle has a walker??? What's that all about.

btw, I'd suggest going to doc. and getting prescribed test for HRT, since you stated your test levels are low. Good luck

HEY>>>HEY >>>HEY>>>>I'm 37 yrs old.How does that qualify me for a walker?Now if you'll excuse me,I'm going to have my prunes.

~Pinnacle~

**fanatic** · 09-13-2005, 05:26 PM

Hell yeah, do it!

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 05:31 PM

Here's to you MFer's who decided to fvck with me......

**Jray1der** · 09-13-2005, 05:35 PM

prunes and tren ROCK! cutting cycle for 2006

346 wks 75mgs tren a
502 weeks 7 prunes per day, no pits ed

LOL!

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Here's to you MFer's who decided to fvck with me......

Ok Jack Lelane....Actually Jack is a stud...Remember the pipes that guy had all the way into his 50's? Now he looks like a dirty old man with thick handlebar eyebrows...Buy a juicer!

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Ok Jack Lelane....Actually Jack is a stud...Remember the pipes that guy had all the way into his 50's? Now he looks like a dirty old man with thick handlebar eyebrows...Buy a juicer!

LOL..you're a year younger than me,and you have the balls to call me old?Somethings wrong with this picture,really wrong.Furthermore,I'm NOT the one who had a hair transplant!!!I got all mine at the ripe ol' age of 37>

~Pinnacle~

**IBdmfkr** · 09-13-2005, 05:45 PM

haha forget hair transplants, I'd have a diff. wig for everyday of the week!

***SPIKE*** · 09-13-2005, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

LOL..you're a year younger than me,and you have the balls to call me old?Somethings wrong with this picture,really wrong.Furthermore,I'm NOT the one who had a hair transplant!!!I got all mine at the ripe ol' age of 37>

~Pinnacle~

Dude that's below the belt

LOL

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jayhova16

Dude that's below the belt

LOL

LOL...he want to play dirty...so can I.

Sometimes you actually do have to drop an Atomic Bomb to end a war.

~Pinnacle~

**IBdmfkr** · 09-13-2005, 05:53 PM

haha, I heard AR has trouble keeping cialis in stock because of these old folks?

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 05:56 PM

This poor guy is going to come back and look at the thread and think "WOW" look at all the responses.No,it was JACKED!!!LOL

**IBdmfkr** · 09-13-2005, 05:58 PM

Damn kids.

**Jray1der** · 09-13-2005, 06:02 PM

you guys are nuts! great spirited guys. Thats why i love this place.

**Triposinator** · 09-13-2005, 06:21 PM

Thanks Spud,

I hope the gear doesn't make me like Lawrence Welk....shit I'lll need to plan around that "side"

I'll take up the Saw Palmetto recommendation thanks.
My cholesterol is "gold"...I'll test it at mid cycle though, just to make sure it isn't going bad.

I guess my research paid off since there isn't much nay-saying on my cycle

Originally Posted by spud

I'm 45 so I guess I'm getting close to geriatric. I'm starting to like Lawrence Welk and I drive slower than I used to!

I think you'll be pretty happy with your cycle. I'd suggest not tapering down the test in the last week. IMHO it's just not necessary.
Taking some Saw Palmetto is always good for your prostate. You really should have a PSA and "digital" exam for prostate cancer as test/DHT can accelerate prostate cancer quite quickly.
I like taking 10mg nolva through a cycle because of the benefit to your cholesterol levels. You should check them before and during the cycle along with your BP. Watch your salt intake.

Having some HCG will really help your nuts if they start to atrophy. Proviron is always fun for the Mrs. and it helps with gains too!

I think you'll enjoy it!

good luck,
spud

**Triposinator** · 09-13-2005, 06:25 PM

Not really....I saw it was JACKED very soon. I think the problem is I invited comments from old f*&kers...and it never takes long for us to go into a ditch LOL no adult supervision here for us to worry about.

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

This poor guy is going to come back and look at the thread and think "WOW" look at all the responses.No,it was JACKED!!!LOL

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Triposinator

Thanks Spud,

I hope the gear doesn't make me like Lawrence Welk....shit I'lll need to plan around that "side"

I'll take up the Saw Palmetto recommendation thanks.
My cholesterol is "gold"...I'll test it at mid cycle though, just to make sure it isn't going bad.

I guess my research paid off since there isn't much nay-saying on my cycle

Everyone is for you running the cycle.Good luck with it!!!

Sorry for jacking your thread,but it was going nowhere,so we decided to take it for a ride.

~Pinnacle~

**Triposinator** · 09-13-2005, 06:29 PM

OK thanks guys. In between the towel snapping and wedgies I got some good advice and have ordered the gear. By Friday night I'll have lost my cherry.....will you respect me Saturday morning?

Any opinions on the diet plan? Is 3500 sufficient?

Thanks again guys

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Triposinator

OK thanks guys. In between the towel snapping and wedgies I got some good advice and have ordered the gear. By Friday night I'll have lost my cherry.....will you respect me Saturday morning?

Any opinions on the diet plan? Is 3500 sufficient?

Thanks again guys

I urge you to slowly ramp up your cals.Don't start out at 3500.Slowly increase to that level by mid to near cycles end.Otherwise,you'll risk putting on unwanted bodyfat.After all,you're not 25 and your metabolism isn't as quick as it once was.I'm 37,and do just that.I can't start out at a high cals,I'll be a blimp by week 12.Ramp up til you go above your caloric maintenance intake.
So if I were you,I'd start at maybe 2600 cals,and each week add another 150 to it.Bare in mind,the Test isn't going to kick in til week 4 or so.That's when you'll need those higher cals.

~Pinnacle~

**Maetenloch** · 09-13-2005, 07:13 PM

Be sure you get your heart thoroughly checked out - EKG, stress test, etc. Also make sure your cholesterol is under control. AAS will aggravate any pre-exisiting cardiovascular problems - best to head them off early. For men the years between 50 and 65 are like the Bermuda Triangle - people go in, but they don't always come out....

**Tedbear981** · 09-13-2005, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Yeah, just about wheel chair material actually. He just does upper body now cuz his glutes and quads are nerve damaged from too many IM injections. So he told me he wears those baggy multi colored work out pants. That way you can't really tell if he has wheels or not. I think he's injecting into his face now so the AAS distributes evenly down his neck? I dunno for sure, you just have to ask him....

I spit my primaforce all over the keyboard after I read that baggy multicolored work out pants comment!

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

LOL..you're a year younger than me,and you have the balls to call me old?Somethings wrong with this picture,really wrong.Furthermore,I'm NOT the one who had a hair transplant!!!I got all mine at the ripe ol' age of 37>

~Pinnacle~

Hehehe....It's a toupe....I can take it off and scare small children......

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 08:12 PM

They should start a kidney and liver donation forum here at AR. I bet Pinnacle would be the first on the recipiant list?

The main question is...Where the hell are we going to find healthy organs in this place?

**Seattle Junk** · 09-13-2005, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Tedbear981

I spit my primaforce all over the keyboard after I read that baggy multicolored work out pants comment!

Did you see Napolean Dynamite? Remember the part where there in that free MMA class with Rex-Quan-Do? He yanks on his baggy red/white/blue US flag colored pants and says "How do you think somebody would feel getting a round house kick to the face in these bad boys"?

That's our boy.....

***JohnnyB*** · 09-13-2005, 09:11 PM

Bro 500mg of test enan or cyp, up the calories and watch the carbs. At 500mg of test you'll feel 20 again

You won't do just one

JohnnyB

**Tedbear981** · 09-13-2005, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Did you see Napolean Dynamite? Remember the part where there in that free MMA class with Rex-Quan-Do? He yanks on his baggy red/white/blue US flag colored pants and says "How do you think somebody would feel getting a round house kick to the face in these bad boys"?

That's our boy.....

Was thinking the same thing bro!!!! Quesadillas!!!!!!

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