Short cycles? help me on this guys.

[NOTRE DAME]

I have read RealGains articles and im now thinking about doing short cycles like this:
4weeks on/off with higher oral and IM doses
During offtime ill use only insulin
Ive done 8cycles that was between 8-20weeks long and i just want to try something new.

So if you have any good ideas for a stack or something please share with me

NOTRE DAME

[powerliftmike]

So you want a short cycle? Try test suspension or prop.

[NOTRE DAME]

So you want a short cycle? Try test suspension or prop.

Prop and Drol is something i could do.

200mg ED of both???

[testosterona]

thats 1400mgs of test a wk. i would try 100mgs ed if you can grow on this dose, wich you should be able two. abombs at around 150mgs ed 4wks. btw if your doing a short cycle around 6wks, test suspension would be alot more effective that prop, shoot it 50mgs twice a day.

[NOTRE DAME]

thats 1400mgs of test a wk. i would try 100mgs ed if you can grow on this dose, wich you should be able two. abombs at around 150mgs ed 4wks. btw if your doing a short cycle around 6wks, test suspension would be alot more effective that prop, shoot it 50mgs twice a day.

My latest cycle was:

W1-12 Testo Enanthate 1500mg/ew
W1-12 Trenbolone acetate 100mg ED
W1-3, 12-14 Anadrol 200mg ED
So i think it answers why the doses is a bit bigger than the ones you selected.

Test susp i cant get, so it have to be propionate.

[testosterona]

wow what were your gains like. ok well prop is suposed to be ran 8wks min for decent results. by the look of your last cycle i assume you already know that, assuming you have a pretty good understanding about anabolic drugs. so:
prop 200mgs ed wk1-8
aboms 200mgs wk 1-3 (or maybe 100wk 1 then 200wk 2-4)
you ever consider some NPP. good for shorter cycles to pack on mass (fast acting Nandrolone) wk 1-8 100mgs ed

[NOTRE DAME]

wow what were your gains like. ok well prop is suposed to be ran 8wks min for decent results. by the look of your last cycle i assume you already know that, assuming you have a pretty good understanding about anabolic drugs. so:
prop 200mgs ed wk1-8
aboms 200mgs wk 1-3 (or maybe 100wk 1 then 200wk 2-4)
you ever consider some NPP. good for shorter cycles to pack on mass (fast acting Nandrolone) wk 1-8 100mgs ed

If i should do 8weeks i run tren,test,npp and abomb

Tren 100mg ED
Prop 200mg ED
NPP 100mg ED
Anadrol 200mg for the first 4weeks

But now i want to run shorter cycles and not for 8weeks

[testosterona]

why the short cycles? why don't you cycle 8wks on the 8off w' slin. That 8wk cycle above would be killer, just make sure you got the B-6 in there at 200mgs ed for the tren/NPP ya know. i'm trying to understand your motive for shorter cycles, whats to gain w/ that method???

[G-1000]

i would do npp prop and var cycle.

1-10 prop 200mg day
1-10 npp 125mg day
1-10 var 80mg day

[G-1000]

you shpuld not run tren and npp at the same time.

[testosterona]

you shpuld not run tren and npp at the same time.

i know people that do it all the time. just watch out for the proge gyno with b6. this guy runs crazy doses, i don't think we need to be to concerned with him.
BTW gsxr; i'm with you on the 10wks but thats not what he's going for i guess. short cycles? i don't get em

[G-1000]

npp and tren each at 500mg a week or more b-6 will not do shit. you will need to get some bromo. i would not risk it or put any one at risk of gyno.

[testosterona]

gottcha. this is true, forgot about the doses of the two> LOL

[Duke of Earl]

I did an 8 weeker earlier this year - and got really good results - the recovery was also breeze, which really helped

1-8 prop (75mg ED)
1-8 tbol (50mg ED)
7-10 IGF (50mcg ED) - running into PCT

I've decided to use this as the basis for all my cycles now as recovery was so easy & i actually kept gaining during PCT (prolly due to quick HPTA recovery & the IGF)

[Duke of Earl]

npp and tren each at 500mg a week or more b-6 will not do shit. you will need to get some bromo. i would not risk it or put any one at risk of gyno.

agreed - but i'd go for cabergoline instead of bromo given the choice - unless you enjoy feeling rough as fu<k

[NOTRE DAME]

WTF
I ran this cycle and dident get any gyno
w1-10 Prop 185mg ED
w1-10 Tren 75mg ED
w1-10 NPP 100mg ED
Front: 100mg dbol for 2weeks.
Did not run B6 or bromo.

But i did get good answers from an other board on this and im going to do 4on/off for a year and see.

Thanks anyway bros!

[G-1000]

that is good then if you did not get gyno. that means that your not pron to it. but from a out sides point of view i would alwas tell some onw to run the bromo just to be on the safe side.

[tcw]

hmmm......i thought you were going to run a short cycle...???

RealGains....advocates a 2 week on....4 week off cycle...

[karln]

2 weeks on what?

[tcw]

Do a search on Realgains...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=34527