Just wanted to post my observations. My first cycle was BD test cyp 1.5cc twice a week in the quads for 13 weeks. I NEVER felt any pain or discomfort with BD, only a very slight discomfort immediately after injection. Otherwise no pain, no swelling, nothing and the discomfort lasted only a few hours. Now I'm on my second cycle of QV test e and QV deca. I'm still shooting 1.5cc twice a week of the test in my quad (1cc twice a week of deca in delts) and I gotta tell you, so far the pain is quite uncomfortable for about 3 days. I'm sure most of you know that already, just wanted to post it up.